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PAUL M wrote:Lets make it easy for you, if I were Agar and heard the boos I would be thinking they were booing for the player, not singing the praises of TL. If I were CT I would feel like the crowd were completely against me and it would probably affect my game.
Exactly. Anyone in that position would think the same.
I think it is disgusting the way Tommy Lee has been treated at times. It all started when as a young lad he was asked to play scrum half with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders and came in for a lot of critisism. I think he is a player suited to the more free role of loose forward or hooker. He has excellent passing skills and is a great tackler. I don't know why he was continued to be made a scapegoat and why everything always seems to be his fault. He probably did a far better job at scrum half than Thorman ever will, how he was dropped for Thorman I can't understand, who is just pathetic and can't tackle for toffee. If he is to be released, he will definitely go to another SL club where his qualities as a player will be valued and will be able get one over his old employers for his poor treatment and being under valued as a player.
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raynor the crab wrote:I think it is disgusting the way Tommy Lee has been treated at times. It all started when as a young lad he was asked to play scrum half with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders and came in for a lot of critisism. I think he is a player suited to the more free role of loose forward or hooker. He has excellent passing skills and is a great tackler. I don't know why he was continued to be made a scapegoat and why everything always seems to be his fault. He probably did a far better job at scrum half than Thorman ever will, how he was dropped for Thorman I can't understand, who is just pathetic and can't tackle for toffee. If he is to be released, he will definitely go to another SL club where his qualities as a player will be valued and will be able get one over his old employers for his poor treatment and being under valued as a player.
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raynor the crab wrote:I think it is disgusting the way Tommy Lee has been treated at times. It all started when as a young lad he was asked to play scrum half with a lot of responsibility on his shoulders and came in for a lot of critisism. I think he is a player suited to the more free role of loose forward or hooker. He has excellent passing skills and is a great tackler. I don't know why he was continued to be made a scapegoat and why everything always seems to be his fault. He probably did a far better job at scrum half than Thorman ever will, how he was dropped for Thorman I can't understand, who is just pathetic and can't tackle for toffee. If he is to be released, he will definitely go to another SL club where his qualities as a player will be valued and will be able get one over his old employers for his poor treatment and being under valued as a player.
Evening Mr Lee
TBF I agree he has been treated badly by some fans and not given the credit he deserves. I would keep him as I've said on many occasions.
Nobeerineasthull wrote:Steady on, he's not that good!
What exactly do you mean by this as not good that good. Do you mean not as good as other players in his positions at the club or in the league. He is one of the few players at the club at the present time who will bust a gut every time he pulls on the jersey, after all it is a club he has supported since he was young. OK he may not be that good in terms of international standard but he is well above average. If he is not that good, why did Swain and Kearney rate him as one of the most promising youngsters they have known. I think loose forward is a position that would suit Tommy at Hull where he could have the freedom to express his abilities plus he wouldn't shirk the defensive graft in the middle. I don't know how you can play someone like Radford at loose forward who just provides a running game for the position rather than the skills needed for the pivotal position that it is. OK when Washbrook and Houghton/Berrigan are fit he may be behind these two but when injuries strike he is a player to turn to because of his ability to cover several key positions. I do not see it a wise decision to release a player like him. C'mon nobeerineasthull if he is not that good surely you don't remember a few years back when you beat Saints at the KC in 2007 and Horne and Lee were the half backs, I believe Tommy had a blinder that day and that was without Paul Cooke. On the day Saints were at full strength and you were having a dip in form. Maybe you won't have the same view when he comes up trumps against you lot if he is not there next year.
raynor the crab wrote:What exactly do you mean by this as not good that good. Do you mean not as good as other players in his positions at the club or in the league. He is one of the few players at the club at the present time who will bust a gut every time he pulls on the jersey, after all it is a club he has supported since he was young. OK he may not be that good in terms of international standard but he is well above average. If he is not that good, why did Swain and Kearney rate him as one of the most promising youngsters they have known. I think loose forward is a position that would suit Tommy at Hull where he could have the freedom to express his abilities plus he wouldn't shirk the defensive graft in the middle. I don't know how you can play someone like Radford at loose forward who just provides a running game for the position rather than the skills needed for the pivotal position that it is. OK when Washbrook and Houghton/Berrigan are fit he may be behind these two but when injuries strike he is a player to turn to because of his ability to cover several key positions. I do not see it a wise decision to release a player like him. C'mon nobeerineasthull if he is not that good surely you don't remember a few years back when you beat Saints at the KC in 2007 and Horne and Lee were the half backs, I believe Tommy had a blinder that day and that was without Paul Cooke. On the day Saints were at full strength and you were having a dip in form. Maybe you won't have the same view when he comes up trumps against you lot if he is not there next year.
raynor the crab wrote:What exactly do you mean by this as not good that good. Do you mean not as good as other players in his positions at the club or in the league. He is one of the few players at the club at the present time who will bust a gut every time he pulls on the jersey, after all it is a club he has supported since he was young. OK he may not be that good in terms of international standard but he is well above average. If he is not that good, why did Swain and Kearney rate him as one of the most promising youngsters they have known. I think loose forward is a position that would suit Tommy at Hull where he could have the freedom to express his abilities plus he wouldn't shirk the defensive graft in the middle. I don't know how you can play someone like Radford at loose forward who just provides a running game for the position rather than the skills needed for the pivotal position that it is. OK when Washbrook and Houghton/Berrigan are fit he may be behind these two but when injuries strike he is a player to turn to because of his ability to cover several key positions. I do not see it a wise decision to release a player like him. C'mon nobeerineasthull if he is not that good surely you don't remember a few years back when you beat Saints at the KC in 2007 and Horne and Lee were the half backs, I believe Tommy had a blinder that day and that was without Paul Cooke. On the day Saints were at full strength and you were having a dip in form. Maybe you won't have the same view when he comes up trumps against you lot if he is not there next year.
raynor the crab wrote:What exactly do you mean by this as not good that good. Do you mean not as good as other players in his positions at the club or in the league. He is one of the few players at the club at the present time who will bust a gut every time he pulls on the jersey, after all it is a club he has supported since he was young. OK he may not be that good in terms of international standard but he is well above average. If he is not that good, why did Swain and Kearney rate him as one of the most promising youngsters they have known. I think loose forward is a position that would suit Tommy at Hull where he could have the freedom to express his abilities plus he wouldn't shirk the defensive graft in the middle. I don't know how you can play someone like Radford at loose forward who just provides a running game for the position rather than the skills needed for the pivotal position that it is. OK when Washbrook and Houghton/Berrigan are fit he may be behind these two but when injuries strike he is a player to turn to because of his ability to cover several key positions. I do not see it a wise decision to release a player like him. C'mon nobeerineasthull if he is not that good surely you don't remember a few years back when you beat Saints at the KC in 2007 and Horne and Lee were the half backs, I believe Tommy had a blinder that day and that was without Paul Cooke. On the day Saints were at full strength and you were having a dip in form. Maybe you won't have the same view when he comes up trumps against you lot if he is not there next year.
Yes folks, Lee is THAT good he is attracting the interest of.....Salford.
Nice guy, probably, good "club man", seems to be, future member os a top 4 squad, nope.
Seriously, all this sentiment needs to stop, or we will forever be mid-table. (and I am sure some would settle for that)
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