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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:00 pm 
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Kosh wrote:With his long service 'discount' Horne is actually pretty cap efficient. But he does need to recover his form for next season, no doubt.


Thing is, cap efficient is one thing, justifying one of the biggest salaries at the club is another. 50% or not he isnt worth the cash we are paying him currently.

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Big Dave T wrote:Thing is, cap efficient is one thing, justifying one of the biggest salaries at the club is another. 50% or not he isnt worth the cash we are paying him currently.

Very few of our players are.

Horne is clearly not playing well at the moment (although I thought he was OK in the Derby) but there are several easily-identifiable possible reasons for that. I don't see why we should be writing him off just now.






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Kosh wrote:Very few of our players are.

Horne is clearly not playing well at the moment (although I thought he was OK in the Derby) but there are several easily-identifiable possible reasons for that. I don't see why we should be writing him off just now.


Im trying not to write him off and i agree his form in the rovers game was better, but if his weight loss and illness doesnt improve and his form consistently cant improve then surely to keep him we need to re-negotiate his deal and keep his as cover only, bringing in a classy creative 6.

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Big Dave T wrote:Im trying not to write him off and i agree his form in the rovers game was better, but if his weight loss and illness doesnt improve and his form consistently cant improve then surely to keep him we need to re-negotiate his deal and keep his as cover only, bringing in a classy creative 6.

Why would Horne want to renegotiate his deal on the basis of one poor season? How many other players have ever done that at ANY club? :?

Particularly when two of the factors contributing to his poor form are beyond his control and won't be fixed until the off season.






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Kosh wrote:Why would Horne want to renegotiate his deal on the basis of one poor season? How many other players have ever done that at ANY club? :?

Particularly when two of the factors contributing to his poor form are beyond his control and won't be fixed until the off season.


You can fix diabetes? wow

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Kosh wrote:Why would Horne want to renegotiate his deal on the basis of one poor season? How many other players have ever done that at ANY club? :?

Particularly when two of the factors contributing to his poor form are beyond his control and won't be fixed until the off season.


Missed my point, i wasnt talking about after 1 poor season, i was talking about due to illness that may not be able to be improved. :wink:

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Big Dave T wrote:Missed my point, i wasnt talking about after 1 poor season, i was talking about due to illness that may not be able to be improved. :wink:

Diabetes is controllable through diet and/or medication. Horne's will be no different. It can, however, take a while to get the diet right - particularly for a sportsman and particularly when trying to gain weight/muscle.

If the club want to try and pull that trick then they'd better be prepared to get burned TBH.






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Kosh wrote:Diabetes is controllable through diet and/or medication. Horne's will be no different. It can, however, take a while to get the diet right - particularly for a sportsman and particularly when trying to gain weight/muscle.

If the club want to try and pull that trick then they'd better be prepared to get burned TBH.


I hope he manages to control it.

It wouldnt be a trick for the club to downgrade his contract or offload him if he cant though. If performance is impacted by an illness and isnt repairable any company can dismiss the individual and FC have the right to do what they want. He will have had his testimonial this year and the club is bigger than carrying one player should it come to that.

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brett stewart is diabetic and i think danny sculthorpe is too. not sure about other RL players but it's obviously a managable obstacle

rich hasn't formed an effective partnership with chris thorman but he is a quality player and always will be hopefully

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steve redgrave's diabetic isn't he?

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