hi all..first time on here.heres my two bobs worth...i dont think agar can be judged on this season..he has made mistakes.tactically etc.which is only natural first season in charge.im sure the board expected this and really you have to give them credit for that.....they have given him a chance..nobody could of done much with this team..even the great justin morgan didnt do much his first season did he....next season .providing theres no injury crisis..and we get a top class 6...we,ll be back up there!!!..........tansey for england!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a top team should not be gambling on an untried coach

and this isn't his first season, he was in charge for a large chunk of last season, and has been involved in the set up for years. Morgan didn't do much in his first few MONTHS at Rovers, but then led them to promotion in his first full season.

and there has been more than a few tactical errors (bad interchanges etc) the whole tactics and set up are flawed IMO

I'd have been happy to give Agar time IF we had shown some improvement over the last games of Peter Sharps regime, instead our defense has got worse, we exited the cup limply and our attack is just as bad.

...................i can see your point.but i think the club was justified ii giving him a chance.as you say he,s been involved with the hull set up for years.a bit of loyalty comes into it i think...not just for hull.for british rugby league as well....isnt their enough aussies over here!!!!...next season when the new team is assembled is the time to judge..as for morgan i wonder how he would of got on without dobson cooke murrell and galea..oh and the scond best fullback in the city.....

The players are also on easy street knowing that there is no relegation and hence they can come back next season on the same salary/contract and do the same old poop again!!

The excuse its not agars team can also be used for next year as a lot of the team still will not be his

You can make the excuse not my team rumble on for years esp with the salary cap

I was not especting a lot this year as I felt that we did not have any real go forward from the front row - but I was thinking we would have a more expansive style to compensate for this. What we have seen is a continuation of P Sharpe where knowone is allowed to do anything off the cuff. But Agars game plan is worse I feel that we are trying to play like the Aussies did 20 years ago ( P Sharpe tactics) and Agar is not capable of changing this

Absolutely spot on. Whether you like agar or not he should have got better performances out of the players we have and he should have set them out with better tactics etc. If as he has said they dont play to these tactics he has shown weakness by not dropping them. Simple.

The guy is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't...i can imagine the uproar if he started dropping senior players for not adhering to his instructions. We just aren't good enough, end off. Put the first 5 games down to catching teams cold.

Think fans would respect him more for dropping senior players and telling us why. Its better than telling us they will be dropped and then not doing it. He lost all respect he had left at that point. Agree about the first 5 games by the way.

[quote="suedehead."]Does having two average coaches really make good players bad?

I think we fans waaayyy over estimate the quailty of our side and perhaps we should accept the fact that we just aren't that good anymore, that our class players have had their day and Agar and Sharpe can't be blamed for the lack of quality they have to choose from.

Rich Horne isn't a 6, nobody wants Thorman or Lee at 7, but these are who the coaches have to work with. Good workmen shouldn't blame their tools but our coaches have a bag full of blunt ones if you ask me.[/quote]


Dont forget it was AGAR and SHARP that brought this low grade player to
HULL FC in place of WEBSTER. Its no good saying he has lost his confidence as AGAR does, THORMAN is a poor poor player.

It looks like Agar will have 6 or 7 players back in the squad for the Catalans game this should leave some interesting selection problems and maybe the chance for him to make a statement.

If Dowes, Cusack, King, Thackray, Moa, Cordoba and Lauaki are all fit whos plays prop?