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hkrovers wrote:think like most computers it will replace actual people on the turnstiles thus cutting expenditure
But for all the times the turnstiles go wrong, and we have to have staff (which lets be honest, we can't be paying that much for) hanging around The East anyway?
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Mrs Barista wrote:I know I've got previous, but it really wasn't meant that way. I don't get the computerised turnstiles being a capital investment priority when there are other, better income-generating opportunities like greater capacity. A lot of my work is appraising projected returns on investment. To me adding computerised turnstiles will add in signficant cost and will not generate the same revenue uplift as extra capacity.
Sorry to de-rail, Wellsy, but it does look, from what I've seen, that the computerised turnstiles will be in before ground extensions. Just seems odd.
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CHURCHILL wrote:Lets presume Rovers have a serious problem with people gaining entry to the east stand when they shouldn't be, lets then say a major incident occured within the stand, caused by the capacity being higher than it's stated number, and lets then presume the HSE slap a significant fine upon the club, in that scenario, then I'd suggest the new turnstiles aren't such a bad idea.
Fair comment, but that could've been happening for the last three years. If that is a genuine concern then fair enough.
pmh wrote:But for all the times the turnstiles go wrong, and we have to have staff (which lets be honest, we can't be paying that much for) hanging around The East anyway?
true but stewards could do that who are getting payed anyway.plus i may be wrong but even part time staff have rights to things like holidays nowadays or they could be agency which means they are not getting payed much but cost rovers maybe double
RoversTrace wrote:Fair comment, but that could've been happening for the last three years. If that is a genuine concern then fair enough.
I could be a long way from the truth, but the club will look at every scenario, and if they feel the turnstiles are a priority, then so be it in my opinion.
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Mrs Barista wrote:I know I've got previous, but it really wasn't meant that way. I don't get the computerised turnstiles being a capital investment priority when there are other, better income-generating opportunities like greater capacity. A lot of my work is appraising projected returns on investment. To me adding computerised turnstiles will add in signficant cost and will not generate the same revenue uplift as extra capacity.
Sorry to de-rail, Wellsy, but it does look, from what I've seen, that the computerised turnstiles will be in before ground extensions. Just seems odd.
Back on topic. What are the off-season plans?
Apologies. I didn't realise we were having a serious conversation! (You load the chum too thick for us dopey East Hull types at times!). And similar sentiments to Wellsy for further derailing his thread...
Best value for money at the moment, for least capital out lay for returns would be to put another golf stand in front of the ludicrous terrace. The finance for the North is clearly not there or work would have started by now.
I personally don't think we can, as a club, grow attendances on a regular basis by much more than about 2k. But, if, we had a 12/14k stadium we'd certainly attract more walk up as at the moment I believe that most of that element of potential support don't bother because they're unlikely to get a ticket.
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With reagard to the stadium I was thinking about this on Sat and what is to stop us extending the east and then bring in another temp stand for the south?
Its not perfect but it solves some probelms in the very short term.
1 It gets rid of the awful current south stand.
2 It gives us more capacity
3 It gives us more capacity for away fans (As both the north and south would/could be available.
Roverswall wrote:With reagard to the stadium I was thinking about this on Sat and what is to stop us extending the east and then bring in another temp stand for the south? Its not perfect but it solves some probelms in the very short term. 1 It gets rid of the awful current south stand. 2 It gives us more capacity 3 It gives us more capacity for away fans (As both the north and south would/could be available.
I agree with you, as a temp measure, it would do the job. Lets face it the new north stand is mainly aimed at coporate facilities with a secondary thought to raising capacity.
DANNY LOCKWOOD - LEAGUE WEEKLY (18-5-09)
I'M SURE THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FACT THAT THE FRONT RUNNERS FOR THE 2009 MEDIA WHINGING AWARD ARE FROM GATESHEAD AND HULL FC, FORMERLY THE B*ST*RD-TWINS OF ONE OF RUGBY LEAGUE'S LOUSIER IDEAS.
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CHURCHILL wrote:I agree with you, as a temp measure, it would do the job. Lets face it the new north stand is mainly aimed at coporate facilities with a secondary thought to raising capacity.
Am I right in thinking that any east extension would counteract the loss of the south?
Meaning that a Temp stand would be added to the total capicity?
Roverswall wrote:Am I right in thinking that any east extension would counteract the loss of the south? Meaning that a Temp stand would be added to the total capicity?
I would imagine the figures would show that yeah at a guess.
DANNY LOCKWOOD - LEAGUE WEEKLY (18-5-09)
I'M SURE THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FACT THAT THE FRONT RUNNERS FOR THE 2009 MEDIA WHINGING AWARD ARE FROM GATESHEAD AND HULL FC, FORMERLY THE B*ST*RD-TWINS OF ONE OF RUGBY LEAGUE'S LOUSIER IDEAS.
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