WormInHand wrote:That's poor and you know it. There is a more than probable chance that your seat will be gone unless you pays your £60 now. That is a real smack in the face from your club to many loyal fans no matter how you dress it up.
Or do the club only consider you a loyal fan if you're a Club Rovers member? Bit like a first and second class fan hierarchy?
Jeez - if Hull had done this can you imagine what you lot (and us, rightly!) would be saying about our board?
Like GML said. I have had the same seats for years and will not be moving. Its the keep things familiar thing.
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Explain How
You don't appear to be thick, but I'll reiterate anyway:
WormInHand wrote:Well obviously, but what if you don't want to/can't join Club Rovers? And loads of new people do who want seat passes - they are inevitably going to pinch many long-timers seats. Your club are saying "So long, and thanks for all the fish......"
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blakeysrobin wrote:Like GML said. I have had the same seats for years and will not be moving. Its the keep things familiar thing.
But you have joined Club Rovers so as not to risk losing it, fair play to you, I don't have a problem with that BUT with the economy the way it is at the moment there will be many who just don't have the money at the moment, dress it up whatever way you like, but this is the club wanting £60 NOW and the rest of your pass money by the end of Sept if you register. I'm sure there will be some people who register for the scheme so that they can get a RM stand seat, which they wouldn't have been able to do otherwise, hence someone loses their's. For what it's worth, with the extension to the east stand I don't think there will be as much of a problem on that side, especially with the relatively low uptake of the scheme in comparison to the number of passholders.
RoversTrace wrote:I think the point was if they don't/can't join the scheme
TBH your getting rather tedious.
Of course Rovers Membership brings advantages. Did you as a passholder bother about non passholders who had to wait to pick over the remain of derby tickets and did you step back and allow them first dibs with CC tickets? Did you present them with your tickets ?
RSG members get advantages.
JR members get advantages.
Shareholders get advantages.
Passholders get advantages.
Sponsors get advantages.
Corporate Sponsors get advantages.
WormInHand wrote:You don't appear to be thick, but I'll reiterate anyway:
So long, the pub and Golf stand beckon...
Right so your assuming that there will be a major uptake of new supporters when realisticly to start with anyhow the 2010 members will come from the current fan base.
Lets say hypotheticly that 2010 attracts 2000 members
Most will be East Standers as thats the biggest and most popular area.
As you made assumptions so will i.
1000 from the East Stand = Nobody's place taken
600 from the RM Stand = More then likely to retain their current seat
300 from The Well = Nobody's place taken
100 - North Stand = Again likely to sit in the same area.
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Big Spender wrote:TBH your getting rather tedious. Get used to is cos I'm not going to change my opinion just because it doesn't suit a few on here
Of course Rovers Membership brings advantages. Did you as a passholder bother about non passholders who had to wait to pick over the remain of derby tickets and did you step back and allow them first dibs with CC tickets? Did you present them with your tickets ?
Being a passholder has always secured you these additional benefits so that's a pretty weak arguement.
RSG members get advantages - am a member, but how will the RSG suffer this year when there are no discounts? The RSG have secured players like Scott Murrell in the past when the club didn't have the money to do so, all monies raised go to the club, it seems now that perhaps they are not as important. Whilst it was set up to help the club there is no doubt that many people joined simply for the discount in the shop
JR members get advantages - both my kids are members and have benfitted from discounted travel to away games, yes
Shareholders get advantages - since when? I have been a shareholder for the last four years and never had any advantages whatsoever[/color]
Passholders get advantages - that is exactly the way it should be, and is at practically every sporting club in the land
Sponsors get advantages - well, I'm part of the player sponsorship team too and never had any advantages other than the fact I have the good feeling of being able to say I'm a sponsor, which is why I did it
Corporate Sponsors get advantages - can't comment
Fact of life.
Get the idea ?
Just because it's red and white doesn't mean it's right for everyone, just because I don't agree with something Rovers do doesn't make me any less of a fan. If you've joined, good for you, I don't have a problem with that, it's obviously right for you, so why do you have a problem with the fact i choose not to? Nowhere am I telling anyone they should or shouldn't join, I'm just pointing out the negatives as others are pointing out the positives.
It's a discussion board, or did that one pass you by.
Of course Rovers Membership brings advantages. Did you as a passholder bother about non passholders who had to wait to pick over the remain of derby tickets and did you step back and allow them first dibs with CC tickets? Did you present them with your tickets ?
RSG members get advantages. JR members get advantages. Shareholders get advantages. Passholders get advantages. Sponsors get advantages. Corporate Sponsors get advantages.
Fact of life.
Get the idea ?
YEH but No but yeh but...didn't all of the above get advantages anyway without having to stump up an ADDITIONAL £60 ? as we are now expected to, to receive same advantages ? (smoke and mirrors dear boy, smoke and mirrors !!)
I think like Rob, to be honest. The people who sign up for club Rovers will be the ones who already hold passes, so therefore, we can predict very minimal disruption to those who want to keep what ever place they currently have.
The other point that was made, was about the benefits pass holders get, which they should, but when we hit Sl I know many who could no longer get in the east stand (who had been there through the darker days,) because it was taken by those who could afford/be worth while having a pass and they didn't complain. The simple fact is, as we progress, certain things will have to change as they have already. I want us to be innovative and forward thinking, and I firmly believe most Sl clubs will adopt this in the not too distant future.
Joined: Sep 26 2005 Posts: 3592 Location: East 'Ull of course!!
Then perhaps we should all agree to disagree instead of disprespecting each other's opinions. Those who want to join will, those who don't won't, it's down to personal choice and circumstance at the end of the day.
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