thehullwhitestar wrote: Anyone who has fond memories of PS has a very short memory !!
100% agree.
It's an indication of how bad Agar is, the fact that Sharp was better is a no brainer, it's a bit like saying a heart attack is a better way of going than being shot, the end result is the same.
It's an indication of how bad Agar is, the fact that Sharp was better is a no brainer, it's a bit like saying a heart attack is a better way of going than being shot, the end result is the same.
nice recruitment on coaches there board
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thehullwhitestar wrote:My opinion of him hasn't changed either. I'm sure he was a nice guy with good intentions but he took us backwards with breakneck speed.
He is the one that retained the likes of Radford, Dowes, Yeaman, Lee, G Horne etc.. and he also signed Maiava, Sing, Byrne, Cusack, Dykes and left us with a "signed up squad" that no self-respecting coach would ever want !! He is also the one that showed the door to McMenemy, Briscoe, Brough without a second thought.
Anyone who has fond memories of PS has a very short memory !!
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thehullwhitestar wrote:My opinion of him hasn't changed either. I'm sure he was a nice guy with good intentions but he took us backwards with breakneck speed.
He is the one that retained the likes of Radford, Dowes, Yeaman, Lee, G Horne etc.. and he also signed Maiava, Sing, Byrne, Cusack, Dykes and left us with a "signed up squad" that no self-respecting coach would ever want !! He is also the one that showed the door to McMenemy, Briscoe, Brough without a second thought.
Anyone who has fond memories of PS has a very short memory !!
My fond memory of him was watching him lead the team out at Old Trafford.
Briscoe - agree that was a mistake although not sure whether it was him or the board setting the contract value. He should have remained at FB and there would have been no need for Byrne as Tony was doing that job fine.
Maiava - failed project terrible signing.
Cusack is a good forward with a highly professional attitude.
Dykes got Hull to Wembley last year (bet you were in the queue for tickets). Excellent player but a panic signing after the Plummer/Cooke debacle.
Sing was our top try scorer in his first year despite mickey poor service (see loss of Cooke).
McMenemy was released because his shoulder couldn’t stand the rigours of SL.
Brough was allegedly ill disciplined off the field – a point proven at Wakefield only recently.
Biggest things that cost Sharpy his job were shambolic injury problems and the loss of Cooke neither of which were under his control. Not the best coach I’m sure but better than Agar in my view. He should have been given more time and support. Looks like the Board have realised that error and are now giving Agar the benefit of the doubt and some real backing where recruitment/retention is concerned. They are one coach too late in my opinion. That should have been done for Peter Sharp. Had he failed with that backing in place then he then should have been shown the door. Agar the same now.
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Staffs FC wrote:My fond memory of him was watching him lead the team out at Old Trafford. Briscoe - agree that was a mistake although not sure whether it was him or the board setting the contract value. He should have remained at FB and there would have been no need for Byrne as Tony was doing that job fine.
Maiava - failed project terrible signing.
Cusack is a good forward with a highly professional attitude.
Dykes got Hull to Wembley last year (bet you were in the queue for tickets). Excellent player but a panic signing after the Plummer/Cooke debacle.
Sing was our top try scorer in his first year despite mickey poor service (see loss of Cooke).
McMenemy was released because his shoulder couldn’t stand the rigours of SL.
Brough was allegedly ill disciplined off the field – a point proven at Wakefield only recently.
Biggest things that cost Sharpy his job were shambolic injury problems and the loss of Cooke neither of which were under his control. Not the best coach I’m sure but better than Agar in my view. He should have been given more time and support. Looks like the Board have realised that error and are now giving Agar the benefit of the doubt and some real backing where recruitment/retention is concerned. They are one coach too late in my opinion. That should have been done for Peter Sharp. Had he failed with that backing in place then he then should have been shown the door. Agar the same now.
You can think what you want but you are totally wrong !!!
Briscoe - He'd already pushed him out of the squad and made it quite clear that he didn't rate him before the contract talks, big big mistake.
Maiava - Only a clown could possibly watch him play then give him a deal like we did. Poor doesn't sum it up.
Cusack - Absolutely the opposite of what we needed at the time in our pack. Panic/poor signing and a waste of a quota spot.
Dykes - A player who everyone on both sides of the world knew was finished and couldn't even pull his shorts up without needing time on the treatment table. Total pi$$ take signing.
Sing - Probably the most disappointing "high profile" signing that we have ever made. An old man with zero pace and a two year pension plan from Hull. Big waste of money and quota spot.
McMenemy - one of the best all-round second rowers we've had in the SL era and that clown showed him the door almost within minutes of sitting at his desk. Nothing to do with his shoulder. The clown made it quite clear to him that he didn't rate him and that he had no future at Hull. McMenemy fought all year for a contract which was typical of the total professional that he was, then got unlucky with his shoulder.
Brough - Also shown the door in no time whatsoever. I don't think that he was the answer at SH but he was shipped out and never replaced, unless you count an old past-it Aussie who was made of biscuit.
You can smooth over the facts all you like and, like you just have in part, make it up as you go along, but that guy took us so far backwards in such a short space of time that it was an achievement in itself !! He took a very good squad which needed a little tweak here and there and he totally fooked it up !!! He was the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time and we are still paying for his brief but very damaging tenure.
THANK YOU Mr. PEARSON, FOR RIDDING US OF FCKWIT FUBAR, CEO TOOL AND THE STINKING UNCLE KATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thehullwhitestar wrote:You can think what you want but you are totally wrong !!!
Briscoe - He'd already pushed him out of the squad and made it quite clear that he didn't rate him before the contract talks, big big mistake.
Maiava - Only a clown could possibly watch him play then give him a deal like we did. Poor doesn't sum it up.
Cusack - Absolutely the opposite of what we needed at the time in our pack. Panic/poor signing and a waste of a quota spot.
Dykes - A player who everyone on both sides of the world knew was finished and couldn't even pull his shorts up without needing time on the treatment table. Total pi$$ take signing.
Sing - Probably the most disappointing "high profile" signing that we have ever made. An old man with zero pace and a two year pension plan from Hull. Big waste of money and quota spot.
McMenemy - one of the best all-round second rowers we've had in the SL era and that clown showed him the door almost within minutes of sitting at his desk. Nothing to do with his shoulder. The clown made it quite clear to him that he didn't rate him and that he had no future at Hull. McMenemy fought all year for a contract which was typical of the total professional that he was, then got unlucky with his shoulder.
Brough - Also shown the door in no time whatsoever. I don't think that he was the answer at SH but he was shipped out and never replaced, unless you count an old past-it Aussie who was made of biscuit.
You can smooth over the facts all you like and, like you just have in part, make it up as you go along, but that guy took us so far backwards in such a short space of time that it was an achievement in itself !! He took a very good squad which needed a little tweak here and there and he totally fooked it up !!! He was the wrong man in the wrong place at the wrong time and we are still paying for his brief but very damaging tenure.
Right Ho.
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