have you joined the weekly draw in 30 years i have been in it I won another tenner last week thats one £75 win and two £10 wins for my £2 a week so i think this must be making money if people have the same winning streak as me.

I think the condescending attitude of some posters on this and recent other threads is disgraceful, there is a certain holier than thou feeling, and it seems to come from people who see no wrong whatsoever from within the club, and they try to talk down anyone who speaks up! "There not fans" ,"we don't need them" (have you seen the gaps in the terraces?) and to retort with the words "f *ck o*f !!!" if it doesn't toe the party line, is in it's basic form pathetic not to mention disrespectful to our "non we don't need you fans"

Yes we have won some games maybe saints/leeds hasn't helped really, the brand of rugby is awful, the crowd gets worse week on week, the lies and bulls*it from the club is at best not very funny, that reminds me where is my centenenary shirt?. I pay for my season ticket when there are freebies everywhere, even a Cas fan said he could have had as many as he wanted for a tenner!!!!! Not to mention Floridagate, player power, the stadium debacle etc I could go on .

I love this club like the next person but don't accept people being told to Fu*k off because they say something controversial..

Of my 43 years 39 of them have been a Red I've seen it all even the really great times !! Please don't treat our fans like lepers, we still live in a democracy not a dictatorship.

Well done to Captain Planet on his thread starter. Finally, someone who is a realist, not a fantasist. And to smarta**e Ex Salford Uni & Gruffy - you two should get a room!

Red all over - I think most people would appreciate your point, but a lot of people here (and more importantly in the ground) are sick of player and board abuse, moronic behaviour and general stupid expectations of what would happen this year.

So maybe mistakes have been made, but if we announced tomorrow we had the funding from the college (and the stadium was go) what would they winge about then? Because they weren't told the day before an announcement would be made? All of the five clubs are struggling because of the economic climate - hardly something brought on by Salford's board.

As for not spending a fortune on the team and making the club broke, well.... shoot 'em!

Keep the faith - the club is only here to throw mud at because of John Wilkinson. We have young inexperienced players in the team, who by definition are inconsistent, but overall are a joy to watch. The books are balanced. We are trying to get a new stadium. If we don't get it in time, we'll get in time for the next franchise - like Widnes. And for every Cas & Wakey away, think of Leeds away and Saints.

Worth every penny of my money.

You talk a lot of sense, the majority of it (and not only this thread), laced with sarcasm. I agree with a lot of what you say, however......



....this quote is inaccurate imo.

Unless of course, you have only watched Salford in the SL years, in which case, I tend to agree with you.

I may be in a group of just 1 here, but I personally don't find the type of rugby now being played in SL, as entertaining as it was in 'the good old days'. I don't think that it's just Salford who can't play free flowing rugby anymore. I'm unsure if that's down to the Aussie coaching techniques in relation to defence, or quite simply that nowadays, the sides with the biggest, fittest and strongest squads will usually come out on top.

My biggest pet-hate is the amount of kicking in the game. It's becoming more like RU as each year goes by. I absolutely despise the cross field kick into the corner on the last tackle. To me it it's a lottery and a poor way to score a try when all other ideas after the 4th or 5th tackle have proved fruitless.

BAN IT

Listen There are too many "fans" spending to much time complaining about this great club. Yes there look like hard times ahead but lets not make it harder EH !
Has anyone thought that not turning up to games or the idiots shouting abuse at the players is probably harming the club more than anything !!
I have stopped bringing my son to games due to the abuse at the end of a game which is a real shame cause at 4years old he was really getting into rugby(just as i'd finally got through to him its not football there playing)
I wonder how many more people this has effected?

I AM HERE TO SPREAD THE LOVE AND GET EVERYONE'S GOOD SPIRIT BACK

"EARTH!"
"FIRE!"
"WIND!"
"WATER!"
"HEART!"

"Go Planet!"

"By your powers combined, I am Captain Planet!"

Captain Planet, he's our hero
Gonna take pollution down to zero

He's our powers magnified
And he's fighting on the salford's side

Captain Planet, he's our hero
Gonna take pollution down to zero

Gonna help him put asunder
Bad guys who like to loot and plunder


We're the salfordteers
You can be one too
'Cause saving our salford is the thing to do!

Shouting and abusing is not the way
Hear what Captain Planet has to say!

"The Power is Yours!"

Good post.

There is so much at stake in SL these days that the sport has literally turned into the proverbial arm-wrestle. The sport has become a little too obsessed with statistics, percentages and the strategic side of the game at the expense of free thought and open rugby. Salford just reflects this trend and the sport is certainly a lot flatter than it was a few years ago.

It can still be exciting and physically it is immense, it's just that the game flows and changes with trends. It's no different from most pro sport these days. Creative flair is still there in SL it's just that sides are so much better at countering it these days.

The game we love is constantly evolving and that is why the Rugby is different from the free-flowing stuff seen yesteryear. Whether that is a good thing for us the supporters, who knows?

And why has all this come in it is because of Sky copying the yanks whose sport is so boring they have to have all these stats to show that something has happened. I now turn off boots n all when Cullen does his break down of the plays because apart from his dull monotone voice he is talking absolute b0ll0cks and seems confused, lets get back to attacking rugby and off the cuff moves Kenny Gill and Dave Watkins style.

as a professional economist...

thats the quickest way of going bust. spend more than you earn, and be the next widnes, swinton, oldham or rochdale...