FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Barrow Raiders clarke sacked



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:36 am 
Player Coach
Junior Player

Joined: Sep 23 2008
Posts: 191
barrowfan wrote:i would like to know where you get your information from, ie complaints,
as for clarky you need to change your heading he did not get the sack as you have stated he stood down in order to bring in a coach with super league experience, in order to help the team,
as for coach clarky i believe the work he has done with the team in the last 18 months needs to be acknowledged and awarded, he got the team automatic promotion last year and got the team to the nrc final
and as for brining in the reserve players why dont you speak to des johnson he seams to be the one pulling all the strings not the coach.


Automatic promotion as there were 2 places up for grabs, loads of money spent on big players that is why barrow have done well but even big players need coaching, give the guy credit he has took the boys as far as he can and stepped aside which takes something to do when you are 2nd in the league, but he let's move on try get another day out to the grand final.....

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:43 am 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Aug 22 2008
Posts: 85
may i start by saying thanks dave for the work you have done at the club in the past few years, early as a player then comunity officer now as coach,
you and des have brought back the glory days, and it shows what type of man you are, who only has intrests for the club he loves , not the money, by stepping down and letting some one else take barrow to the next level,
thank you

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:06 am 
International Board Member
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Apr 22 2003
Posts: 1534
the resaon for slip in form is simple

no brocklehurst a very good player(we all know why)
no campbell in form again a key player
finch and holt playing injured
catic ban
and no bell or dutton who would have been good back ups

now add brett and joey to that and you will still struggle who ever the coach is

that would have an impact on any team in this league

its not inept coaching ,just a power mad chairman who fails to understand rugby(he is after all a football man)

haven, widnes fax fev would all be in a slump if that had happened their squad

clark is a very good coach and will no doubt be snapped up at the end of the season

as for deaking failed ayt oldham despite having pots of money and what was by far thebest squad in NL2






Proud to be NL1

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:07 am 
Club Owner
New Signing

Joined: Aug 06 2003
Posts: 56
haven4ever wrote:yes it tells me his community role is with the rfl who organise and fund it and dessie cant touch him, doesnt matter how you dress it up with 6 games to going sitting 2nd and with 3 or 4 key players out injured some for the season :wink:
then how can sacking the coach for some one who has a very mixed track record be seen as a positive


His community role is nothing to do with him staying as assistant coach. Other clubs fans are trying to stir up trouble where at the moment there doesn't seem to be any.

ETA I don't see any Barrow fans coming on here ranting and raving about the decision. Shame the forum most Barrow fans use is down at the moment.

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:22 am 
Player Coach
Junior Player

Joined: Sep 23 2008
Posts: 191
i think most fans who know anything about rugby is that we have been found, as somebody mentions we havnt got a plan B and havnt played well since the win at widnes which bar the wigan game is the best all round performace this season.

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:43 pm 
International Board Member
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Apr 22 2003
Posts: 1534
machine wrote:i think most fans who know anything about rugby is that we have been found, as somebody mentions we havnt got a plan B and havnt played well since the win at widnes which bar the wigan game is the best all round performace this season.


so the soloution is to replace a coach who got you automatic promotion from NL2 and has demonstrated that he can hack it NL1 and replace him
with a coach who on paper had the best squad by a country mile in NL2 and not only failed to get automatic promotion but also failed to get them oldham into NL1 via the play offs. fail to see how that is the best move

if the rumours of a top coach next season are true then would it not have been better to keep clark at the helm until the end of the season then make him assistant learning under a top SL coach, regardless of what he has said in the paper he will not be happy being replaced by some one who he beat hands down as a coach last season

as for some of you Des can do no wrong sickafants, this is NL1 you will not always beat teams by 50 points, just like you will go through a sticky patch of playing poor and scrapeing wins,sacking the coach with 6 games to go is hardly the best way to get the players out of it

this has DJ wriiten all over it, how much money will it take to realise that you cant just buy success, no doubt you will have an influx of players before the deadline, and it may turn things around it may not,

what ever happens at the end of the season you will loose a very good coach in clark as i have no doubt he will be snapped up






Proud to be NL1

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:36 pm 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Jan 30 2009
Posts: 91
haven4ever wrote:so the soloution is to replace a coach who got you automatic promotion from NL2 and has demonstrated that he can hack it NL1 and replace him
with a coach who on paper had the best squad by a country mile in NL2 and not only failed to get automatic promotion but also failed to get them oldham into NL1 via the play offs. fail to see how that is the best move

if the rumours of a top coach next season are true then would it not have been better to keep clark at the helm until the end of the season then make him assistant learning under a top SL coach, regardless of what he has said in the paper he will not be happy being replaced by some one who he beat hands down as a coach last season

as for some of you Des can do no wrong sickafants, this is NL1 you will not always beat teams by 50 points, just like you will go through a sticky patch of playing poor and scrapeing wins,sacking the coach with 6 games to go is hardly the best way to get the players out of it

this has DJ wriiten all over it, how much money will it take to realise that you cant just buy success, no doubt you will have an influx of players before the deadline, and it may turn things around it may not,

what ever happens at the end of the season you will loose a very good coach in clark as i have no doubt he will be snapped up
from what i can gather the problem at barrow wasn't the coach , is was the fact he has not got a big enough squad , so for me his chairman has let him down not the other way round , dave clark was a good coach , you can tell with his results , but with injuries , suspentions , sackings , illnesses , he just aint got the squad to compete ,and mr johnson is struggling to get players to come down the m6 , so for me no strengh in depth cost clark his job , and that lies in the hands of the directors !

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:36 pm 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Jul 22 2009
Posts: 3
knockon wrote:from what i can gather the problem at barrow wasn't the coach , is was the fact he has not got a big enough squad , so for me his chairman has let him down not the other way round , dave clark was a good coach , you can tell with his results , but with injuries , suspentions , sackings , illnesses , he just aint got the squad to compete ,and mr johnson is struggling to get players to come down the m6 , so for me no strengh in depth cost clark his job , and that lies in the hands of the directors !



i totally agree with what you say,but i hope that with clarky stepping aside for this other coach deakin to take over with his so called exsperience, which is nothing to smile about from what ive been reading, the team makes it to the finals, but i would laugh my a** of if they didnt, this would make the club realise they should have left clarky where he was,
all the best to clarky your a great coach

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:35 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Jan 29 2006
Posts: 1090
barrowfan wrote:i totally agree with what you say,but i hope that with clarky stepping aside for this other coach deakin to take over with his so called exsperience, which is nothing to smile about from what ive been reading, the team makes it to the finals, but i would laugh my a** of if they didnt, this would make the club realise they should have left clarky where he was,
all the best to clarky your a great coach


Well that quote makes your name a joke ! At the end of the day, regardless of what you think of the situation, all we want is what is best for the club and to see it do well !! To say you would laugh your ar*e off if Barrow fails is inexcusable mate !! :NAUGHTY:

For what it is worth, I thought Dave Clarke had done a sterling job as head coach up until after the 2nd half of the league win against Fev at home. After that it all went pear shaped (even with a full strength side) because teams cottoned on to us and we had no plan B. Having no plan B and is a COACHING fault. We were shown up for not having another plan in most games after the Fev win and were very lucky to pull through with wins. You cannot knock the efforts of the players because it has been immense. Coaches live & die by their results im afraid - recently they have not been good enough and that is why Dave has had to go !

The new temp coach may offer no more and we may struggle BUT something needed to change and rightly so.

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:03 am 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Jul 22 2009
Posts: 3
Gary High wrote:Well that quote makes your name a joke ! At the end of the day, regardless of what you think of the situation, all we want is what is best for the club and to see it do well !! To say you would laugh your ar*e off if Barrow fails is inexcusable mate !! :NAUGHTY:

For what it is worth, I thought Dave Clarke had done a sterling job as head coach up until after the 2nd half of the league win against Fev at home. After that it all went pear shaped (even with a full strength side) because teams cottoned on to us and we had no plan B. Having no plan B and is a COACHING fault. We were shown up for not having another plan in most games after the Fev win and were very lucky to pull through with wins. You cannot knock the efforts of the players because it has been immense. Coaches live & die by their results im afraid - recently they have not been good enough and that is why Dave has had to go !

The new temp coach may offer no more and we may struggle BUT something needed to change and rightly so.


you obviously misread what i was trying to say mate! by laughing my a## of i meant it would have stuck it up the higher raqi letting clarky go and bringing in another coach who was no better than the one they had, seams bloody pointless to me bringing in another coach who's reputation isnt that good, you talk about plan b, what about bringing in more players to the side, especially when there were so many injuries,suspension, and a player being sacked,

all you people want to do is blame the coach, tell me what will happen if barrow loose the next 6 games who will you blame then :P

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next





It is currently Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:05 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:05 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford placed in special measures
Scarlet Pimp
119
13m
Super League
FIL
29
21m
Out of contract 2025
Or thane
64
50m
Fans Forum 12 Dec 12th
FIL
2
Recent
Leeds away first up
PopTart
63
Recent
New signings
Hangerman2
14
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
221
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5964
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40853
Recent
2025 Shirt
jaws1
34
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Super League
FIL
29
1m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
32
1m
Fans Forum 12 Dec 12th
FIL
2
1m
New signings
Hangerman2
14
1m
2025 Shirt
jaws1
34
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
557
2m
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
28921
2m
Ground Improvements
Redscat
256
4m
Shirt reveal coming soon
bellycouldta
53
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5964
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Fans Forum 12 Dec 12th
FIL
2
TODAY
Laurie Daley returns as NSW origin coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2025 Challenge Cup
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
BigTime
6
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
BP1
26
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Big lads mat
37
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
bellycouldta
53
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford placed in special measures
Scarlet Pimp
119
13m
Super League
FIL
29
21m
Out of contract 2025
Or thane
64
50m
Fans Forum 12 Dec 12th
FIL
2
Recent
Leeds away first up
PopTart
63
Recent
New signings
Hangerman2
14
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
221
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5964
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40853
Recent
2025 Shirt
jaws1
34
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Super League
FIL
29
1m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
32
1m
Fans Forum 12 Dec 12th
FIL
2
1m
New signings
Hangerman2
14
1m
2025 Shirt
jaws1
34
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
557
2m
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
28921
2m
Ground Improvements
Redscat
256
4m
Shirt reveal coming soon
bellycouldta
53
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5964
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Fans Forum 12 Dec 12th
FIL
2
TODAY
Laurie Daley returns as NSW origin coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2025 Challenge Cup
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
BigTime
6
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
BP1
26
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Big lads mat
37
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
bellycouldta
53
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.