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Roverswall wrote:That is incorrect Renny.
Anyone who hasn't paid for this scheme is less valued as they may now find they cant get a renewal of a pass they currently own just because someone who has paid for membership (clearly MORE valued) can get a pass.


Or a child from one of the school's being visited by Rovers and given free membership, never been to a game in their lives but they can get a pass in the East Stand ahead of me.






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RoversTrace wrote:No offence Reeny, but as one who really can't afford to join, I am already feeling like a second class supporter. Come next season when events like 'meet the players' are organised for Club members only how do you think we'll feel then? It's not about being valued, because I personally think those days are long gone at Rovers, it's about who is putting the money in, that saddens me.

As I said earlier, had the club said pass prices were going up when they went on sale in January that would have given us time to save up and buy, whereas now i have to pay out membership and then pay for four passes all within three months, just can't be done.



I'm not having a go at anyone who does not join, for any reason, Trace. I also didn't say, that those who don't join, are not entitled to their opinions of the scheme. From my point of view, it's helping the club, so is o.k by me and does not anger me in any way. It was just my opinion, like the one above, is yours. x

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RoversTrace wrote:Or a child from one of the school's being visited by Rovers and given free membership, never been to a game in their lives but they can get a pass in the East Stand ahead of me.



I did not know that was the case. As far as I was aware, the free memberships were going out to children of parents who had payed to be part of club Rovers. I don't agree with the above, if that is what has happened, it is pretty rough.

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WormInHand wrote:How much is that pesky bill?


12's into 365/6 = 30ish x £55,500 = £1,665,000 so well below full cap after Tax & N.I.

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Reenyrobin wrote:I did not know that was the case. As far as I was aware, the free memberships were going out to children of parents who had payed to be part of club Rovers. I don't agree with the above, if that is what has happened, it is pretty rough.


Received via email in answer to my queries today:

Quote:On top of all that the card will help gain entry in to the ground through a new turnstile system and junior members are free so when we are out in the school we are making the kids we see members and bringing more people to craven park more often.







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Forever FC wrote:12's into 365/6 = 30ish x £55,500 = £1,665,000 so well below full cap after Tax & N.I.


That on top of all the others? :o :THINK: :lol:

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Reenyrobin wrote:And your proof of all this is??????????????? As you put it, "you IMAGINE" You FC fans imagine quite a lot and it's usually stuff that makes you feel better about the state of your own club.

I have posted on here before that I think the scheme is a good thing, and like others have pointed out, it is progressive thinking, weather the FC fans like it or not.


So can you tell me why the scheme was introduced at very short notice? Why there was time pressure put on fans to join? Why people are almost compelled to subscribe or lose out in the long run?

Face it love, it is an exercise to raise cash in the short term

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RoversTrace wrote:Received via email in answer to my queries today:


In principle I see your point. However, in practice these kids are unlikely to deny you a chance to buy an East stand pass. They have been given membership, not passes - the proportion that go from never having been to a game to season ticket holders overnight will be pretty small, I'd guess.

Trying to capture the next generation of fans, making them feel part of the club, getting them down to CP for the first time, all strikes me as pretty positive. While I'm not naive enough to discount Bandito's cashflow theory, I'm also not so cynical that I can't imagine that the club might want a membership scheme for its own sake, as a positive and progressive initiative. Its not been an easy birth, but hopefully Rovers can learn from that and build it into something that is admired and envied.

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Reenyrobin wrote:Don't you think that the majority of people paying for this scheme are already pass holders? So therefore, will just get the renewal of the pass they already own, i.e not taking anything from anyone.
But not all which is exaclty the point im making.
A current pass holder is less valued as you put it because he hasn't got £60 on the hip right now.
There is no getting around that fact sorry to say.






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Mild Rover wrote:In principle I see your point. However, in practice these kids are unlikely to deny you a chance to buy an East stand pass. They have been given membership, not passes - the proportion that go from never having been to a game to season ticket holders overnight will be pretty small, I'd guess.

Trying to capture the next generation of fans, making them feel part of the club, getting them down to CP for the first time, all strikes me as pretty positive. While I'm not naive enough to discount Bandito's cashflow theory, I'm also not so cynical that I can't imagine that the club might want a membership scheme for its own sake, as a positive and progressive initiative. Its not been an easy birth, but hopefully Rovers can learn from that and build it into something that is admired and envied.
But not impossible.
Like it or not if that happens just once the its out of order.






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