Post subject: Re: If Agar Stays Until Next Season & Fails, Rule Has To Go Too
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:08 pm
Ian P
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Uncle Junior wrote:Interesting perspective on Rule's position, Ian P also. However, if it is indeed the case that he had no part in Agar's appointment and has no power to sack him then he has simply accepted that it is part of his remit to be a 'lightening conductor' for the wrath of fans. Thus by being prepared to continually back Agar in the press and on the radio he deserves the flack that he gets for this aswell as the damage to fans perceptions of his intelligence and ability to do his job. I accept of course that he's in a good, highly paid job and it's understandable that he doesn't want to lose it and therefore has to tow the party line, but as a consequence of this he has to accept the resulting criticism.
I see what you mean.
Its his job to back Agar at the moment, it was also his job to back Sharp and he did upto the board getting rid of him. Then James took on the mantle of the who had sacked him, he had in truth not of course that was higher up.
Top and bottom is that Agar will be thrown out of the lifeboat as soon as it looks like being stupid to keep him in it. Like wise James Rule and the precident there is his predecessor who was made to walk the plank for some collective cock ups.
I just think our problems are higher up the chain of command and the people who appoint these in the first place are the ones who have failed.
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UllFC wrote:I think the board have realised that they probably got rid of Kear and Sharp too hastily...so are deciding to give time to the coach that really doesn't deserve it in a bid for stability.
Whilst i was in favour of Sharp going (I think he had really ran out of ideas and physically appeared drained and stressed) the rugby we thought was bad then was better than 2009 has been
this clubs got so bad that i'm getting misty eyed for the inconsistent days of Kear, missing the playoffs cos of salary cap breach in 2003, heck at least 1999 had the stress and drama of possibly going down and going bust. This season is just dead rubber all the way now.
I would certainly prefer Peter Sharp in now to Agar. The club were too quick to listen to hand wringing fans calling for his head. The same fans who criticise the club for constant spin are the ones who used to accuse Sharp of not being media savvy. Too late now. Agar may do better with a more professional group of players next season - if he doesn't he should be out.
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Staffs FC wrote:I would certainly prefer Peter Sharp in now to Agar. The club were too quick to listen to hand wringing fans calling for his head. The same fans who criticise the club for constant spin are the ones who used to accuse Sharp of not being media savvy. Too late now. Agar may do better with a more professional group of players next season - if he doesn't he should be out.
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Staffs FC wrote:I would certainly prefer Peter Sharp in now to Agar. The club were too quick to listen to hand wringing fans calling for his head. The same fans who criticise the club for constant spin are the ones who used to accuse Sharp of not being media savvy. Too late now. Agar may do better with a more professional group of players next season - if he doesn't he should be out.
Just because sharp was less worse than agar doesn't mean he was a good coach. Neither was kear. The club have made 3 successive poor coaching appointments. I've said it before that if we'd invested in a top quality coach when mcrae left we'd have won SL by now.
Jake the Peg wrote:Just because sharp was less worse than agar doesn't mean he was a good coach. Neither was kear. The club have made 3 successive poor coaching appointments. I've said it before that if we'd invested in a top quality coach when mcrae left we'd have won SL by now.
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Jake the Peg wrote:Just because sharp was less worse than agar doesn't mean he was a good coach. Neither was kear. The club have made 3 successive poor coaching appointments. I've said it before that if we'd invested in a top quality coach when mcrae left we'd have won SL by now.
Agreed, although i actually liked Sharp and maybe he should have been given more time at the helm.
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I would maybe disagree that Sharp was a bad coach. He got us to a GF in his first half season here and then achieved a respectable 4th place the year after. I think the guy deserves a lot of credit for that. I really think that he could of built something here. To be honest, I think a fully fit Adam Dykes and a few less injuries in general would of put us in a great position last year. Then throw in a clear-out that im sure Sharp would of instigated at the end of last year and I think we would of been cooking on gas. I think the guy got a bad deal really
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