I think too much water has gone under the bridge Paul, he just doesn't have the personality IMO.

Do you mean once they had forgotten his pre match and half time talks near the end of the game?

So for arguments sake lets see we are where Hudds are this season, that would not be good enough and fans would want rid?

Makes no sense whatsoever.

Why are they failing to complete sets?

Lack of concentration?
lack of ability with the ball?
lack of motivation?
Lack of effective preparation?
lack of focus?

Whichever way you look at it, most of the issues are things that should be taken care of pre game and that is the coaches job. Unless they're doing it on purpose in which case that's a reaction to the poor coach

As a (slight) aside - the Celtic try that was cheered so much by some supporters... could anyone see why that try wasn't disallowed for Crossing/Obstruction? It looked a lot worse (to me - obviously with my "black & white" coloured spectacles) than the disallowed try for Hull against Leeds. Why wasn't the ref booed rather than Hull FC?

You shouldn't laugh at your own jokes

No. What I meant was that IMO we have no chance of 'turning' the corner with him in charge.

However, if he were to turn things around then yes, no doubt all would be forgiven.

All points that were poor last season and still do not appear to have been rectified hench why we are still a very poor side.

For me we have enough in the players we have (regardless of whether they are Agars team or not thats just an excuse) to be competing with the teams in 3rd to 8th. The fact is we have a coach who is not up to the job or able to get much out of these players. None of last seasons failing seem to have been addressed at all. Next season I honestly can not see much changing whilst under Agar & Sharps tenure.

I don't think people are saying that Paul...i would be happy with us being in that position...the problem i have (and maybe others to) is that Agar hasn't given me any reason to suggest we will be in that position next year.

He has been in charge a season and a half (by end of the year) and he hasn't achieved anything of any note and incidents / comments like Friday alienate Agar even further from fans like myself.

I am so concerned as to what he can give us next year.

PAUL M wrote:So for arguments sake lets see we are where Hudds are this season, that would not be good enough and fans would want rid? Makes no sense whatsoever. I applaud your optimism Paul, and I'll be happy to say I was wrong if that turns out to be the case, but there is nothing about Agar that makes me feel he has it in him to be a top SL Head Coach. In Fact, a few weeks at Widnes is just what Hall needed, is there a clue in the article?

PAUL M wrote:So for arguments sake lets see we are where Hudds are this season, that would not be good enough and fans would want rid? Makes no sense whatsoever. I applaud your optimism Paul, and I'll be happy to say I was wrong if that turns out to be the case, but there is nothing about Agar that makes me feel he has it in him to be a top SL Head Coach. In Fact, a few weeks at Widnes is just what Hall needed, is there a clue in the article?