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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:46 pm 
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Chico wrote:I remember someone saying to me that football supporters don't complain when they have to go to areas similar to Weaste — Goodison Park for example — because they want to be there, nay have to be there. Salford's challenge to produce a team, matchday experience, whatever, to make people want to attend.


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I had to work on Friday night and for the first time ever couldn't give away my season ticket!

Why? Floating supporters don't want to see a meaningless game in a poor stadium, especially when the weather is so bad.

AND the most we have scored in a home game was against Celtic (I think) in our first game. 28 points. So if the game is played on a Friday or Sunday we are still very boring to watch.

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redgunner wrote:I would back Sunday rugby, We will have I believe more people watching, more away fans visiting, surely that got to be better them what we see on a Friday night.

I must be the only person who thinks that the difference in away support would be pretty negligible. Let's face it, the biggest away followings are likely to be Saints, Wigan and Warrington, and these don't tend to be affected too much by Friday nights. Granted, there may be some mileage in terms of Leeds and the Gruesome Twosome, but even then we're only talking in terms of maybe a couple of hundred speccies apiece.

General apathy is running right through the league, so for Salford to post an increase in crowds this year is pretty good going IMHO.

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Hillbilly_Red wrote:See we have won something this season (unless the joint holders Whingeton and Whinegan have a late strop about their respective coaches).

Friday night attracts sponsors and business visits ... Sunday does not. These bring in more money than speccies. This has been the foundation of all professional sports for nearly 40 years.


Rather than argue your point, as it's pretty sound, it does make me feel rather down-hearted as a RL fan.

The fact that it seems to be bringing in sub-standard investment/business that seems (And I stress this as I see no other alternative) to be bringing nothing to the advancement of Salford RLFC, why bother?

It's all very well attracting sub-standard investors to the club, and it is full of those, but the so-called "Speccies" make up the financial backbone of the Club. Fridays do more harm than good. Just look at it!

We are a Club hanging onto what we have. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I aint yet...

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Karlos13 wrote:Should be £15 on the gate, £10 in advance.

Get people buying in advance then they are committed to turning up.


Spot on.

Travelling over from over the Pennines it's £17 on the train, then £17 on the gates, a few quid on the metrolink, a few beers and you're looking at £50 minimum to end up probably disappointed. If I could buy in advance I'd move some shifts around and get a cheap train ticket a few months in advance too so it's locked in my calendar and then try to persuade some mates to come along as well. The weather doesn't seem to have helped this year either if I remember right. Bit gutted having looked at my rota that as things look I won't get to the Willows this season.

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"We are a Club hanging onto what we have."

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Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time;
Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme.
There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify;
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TheButcher wrote:Fridays do more harm than good. Just look at it!


Since say 1997, I'm quite sure Super League averages for Friday night matches are higher than those on Sundays; but as I alluded to before, the figures, rather than being a true indicator for the preference of the match day, are probably skewed by us having a more attractive team to watch for the bulk of the Friday night period.

Families with young children can go either way on this issue based on their lifestyles. Yes, it's true that a lot may be put off by the late finish of a Friday night. Some, however, will prefer Friday nights, because it gives them the remainder of the [proper] weekend to have a mini break, head off to the caravan, or just have a rest day on a Sunday.

Although personally I'd prefer Salford to play its home matches on Sundays, it wouldn't surprise me if the difference in preference between the two days was negligible. Favouring corporate sponsorship over paying supporters, whilst pragmatic, is set never going to sit well with many of us on here; but I am glad that we aren't relying so much on away support bolstering our coffers — which was always a bone of contention on this forum in, shall we say, the pre-Trish era.

Again, I'll come back to what I and others mentioned previously: the issue with attendances is more to do with the spectacle. Is it attractive enough? Does it offer value for money?

One of Salford's largest modern day attendances was against Leeds in 2007. It was played on a Friday night, in Weaste, in a century-old ground. Regardless, all the elements for a good spectacle were there: it was the first match of the season, Salford had come off a very encouraging previous year placing 5th, Leeds were the Super League champions and we hadn't defeated them since 1993/4 (?). A potential upset was on the cards — it stands to reason that more people are going to want to see this.

The Salford team at present has regressed to the Harveyesque period of unpredictability. Most of the time, Salford will lose, and lose poorly; but now and again, they'll pull off the most unlikeliest of victories. This is opposite to the Harrison era where Salford were solid, rarely pushed around at home, but were as likely, if not less likely, to cause a massive upset. The problem for us now is that the latter of the two approaches is a safer bet, and a more encouraging watch overall.

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Chico wrote:One of Salford's largest modern day attendances was against Leeds in 2007. It was played on a Friday night, in Weaste, in a century-old ground.


That game was played on a Sunday (the 11th of February to be precise).

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N.K.O.T.T wrote:That game was played on a Sunday (the 11th of February to be precise).


:lol:

Well that blows my argument out of the water!

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