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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:57 pm 
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fc baldy wrote:Did we spend to full cap with Crocker?

On the pitch yip but not off it.


No even with Crocker we was over 300k below cap, having our pants down big time






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The Brother wrote:Because i know im right, but hey let people have the wool pulled over there eye's by kath claiming we have spent full cap, she is a disgrace her own club and doesn't even know how much we spent on the cap no wonder were in the $hit

Nothing personal. I don't believe anyone without good reason, no matter how convinced they may be. I still have PMs swearing blind that Crocker had got his visa and was in the country, apparently from an unimpeachable source. Third-hand information is always iffy.

I fully expect that we started the season short of full cap due to the Carvell fiasco. Lauaki will have taken up some of that space, then we had Crocker's salary freed up and Byrne paid off. I wouldn't surprise me at all if we finish the season short of the cap due to the unholy mess our season has been.

I am doubtful that we are currently £0.5 million short, and I am equally doubtful that we ever intended to be as short as we are.






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Kosh wrote:Nothing personal. I don't believe anyone without good reason, no matter how convinced they may be. I still have PMs swearing blind that Crocker had got his visa and was in the country, apparently from an unimpeachable source. Third-hand information is always iffy.

I fully expect that we started the season short of full cap due to the Carvell fiasco. Lauaki will have taken up some of that space, then we had Crocker's salary freed up and Byrne paid off. I wouldn't surprise me at all if we finish the season short of the cap due to the unholy mess our season has been.

I am doubtful that we are currently £0.5 million short, and I am equally doubtful that we ever intended to be as short as we are.


I don't have to justify this to anyone, i can't see Mr Rule coming out to admitting this that despite Kath making a total mockery of us by saying in her programme notes have spent full cap

These people running our club are blantaly lying to us and were guilible enough to let it happen and take there word for it

I am telling you, we are nowhere near the cap






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All Honestly...who pi$$ing cares.






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Kosh wrote:Nothing personal. I don't believe anyone without good reason, no matter how convinced they may be. I still have PMs swearing blind that Crocker had got his visa and was in the country, apparently from an unimpeachable source. Third-hand information is always iffy.

I fully expect that we started the season short of full cap due to the Carvell fiasco. Lauaki will have taken up some of that space, then we had Crocker's salary freed up and Byrne paid off. I wouldn't surprise me at all if we finish the season short of the cap due to the unholy mess our season has been.

I am doubtful that we are currently £0.5 million short, and I am equally doubtful that we ever intended to be as short as we are.


I would have been aswell but its apparently true.






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fc baldy wrote:All Honestly...who pi$$ing cares.



I do, when a club of our size is spending that far under cap then they are fleecing us , and we deserve better

what chance have we got of success and what chance has agar got tbh when he is operating from that far out of the cap






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The Brother wrote:I do, when a club of our size is spending that far under cap then they are fleecing us , and we deserve better

what chance have we got of success and what chance has agar got tbh when he is operating from that far out of the cap



How do they fleece us....its our choice if we pay for passes and shirts isnt it.

We may be under but nobody may not have been available and tbh....Agar wouldnt have done ant better would he.






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fc baldy wrote:How do they fleece us....its our choice if we pay for passes and shirts isnt it.

We may be under but nobody may not have been available and tbh....Agar wouldnt have done ant better would he.


Because a club of our size with money and income we generate should be spending as near to cap as possibile imo, instead they try to make us believe that we have and have the brass neck to tell us we have

We have a board that can't be truthful, a team that doesn't care apart from 1 or 2, and a coach that can't the best out of them

Great recipe Mr Rule.like you say on your hour of spin how can you cook a meal if you don't have the ingredients






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The Brother wrote:I am telling you, we are nowhere near the cap

We heard you the first 500 times TBH.

I'm not taking anybodies word for anything. I've already said, more than once, that it wouldn't surprise me if we were well below cap. I'm challenging the figure, not the idea.






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fc baldy wrote:All Honestly...who pi$$ing cares.


I do. As a supporter, my first priority is that the club survives, which it wouldn't have done without the merger. Obviously, then, the strides made off the pitch in terms of a £1million improvement to the finances since 2004 have been vital.

My second priority is success on the pitch. If everyone else is at or close to the cap and we are short to that extent, as a customer I'm being short-changed as we're not giving ouselves the best chance of that. We're paying the same price as other SL clubs (in fact more than most, but that's OK given our facilities) but getting less of our money spent on the team. For a club with our numbers of supporters and levels of merchandise turnover that's not acceptable.

If this were true, what do people think our board's agenda is exactly? They won't be making much cash out of the business on an ongoing basis (stories of Kath's salary aside) as I understand interest on their loans is linked to base rate. They may be trying to improve the value of the business for onward sale, but surely they must recognise that 2 finishes outside the play-offs is eroding the value of the club as fast as profits are increasing it, so no one really benefits.

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