I think some people on here are going abit OTT regarding the fans reaction to celtic's try. The crowd were not 'cheering' the try, they were applauding it, as a previous poster mentioned. I don't think anyone wanted celtic to win the game (bar a few) therefore why would they cheer one of their try's which subsequently put them in the lead? I was one of the many that appluaded their try, I didnt want them to win, but I was just reluctant to see some decent rugby being played. I was happy to see at least 1 team turn up and play with abit of enthusiasm, they were willing to throw the ball about and try things, our team clearly werent. Good on em I say.
andymacca wrote:Its alright saying that the players need our support but we've being giving that for the last 16weeks which has only seen us beat cas, salford and celtic. Maybe its about time the fans got a little bit of encouragement, or some 'return' for their investment, from the club.
Raggytash wrote:I think this problem has been exacerbated by Agar and the board. For the last 3 seasons they've been telling us what a great squad we have, and how we'll be in a position to win things. They have built up false expectations by over hyping average signings and pretending our existing players are competitive. Most fans have swallowed all this excrement for a long time but as they say, you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
In regards to booing our own team, I didn't myself because I had absolutely no expectations going into the game. I see ourselves as the 3rd worst team in the league and I think we play like the 3rd worst side. To expect anymore of this squad and coaching set up would be daft. I don't have a problem with others booing the team and think Agar can only condemn them when he starts paying an admission fee himself.
On the whole, I don't think there was a real lack of effort from the players, just a lack of ideas. I was very impressed with Sam Moa and Calderwood, and I liked Moa's interaction with the crowd at the end. However, even with the new signings next year, we won't have a great deal of improvement in us under this current regime.
Agree on this point, also throw in there Whiting and Tansey and all is not lost we do have some showing heart.
super_fc wrote:I think some people on here are going abit OTT regarding the fans reaction to celtic's try. The crowd were not 'cheering' the try, they were applauding it, as a previous poster mentioned. I don't think anyone wanted celtic to win the game (bar a few) therefore why would they cheer one of their try's which subsequently put them in the lead? I was one of the many that appluaded their try, I didnt want them to win, but I was just reluctant to see some decent rugby being played. I was happy to see at least 1 team turn up and play with abit of enthusiasm, they were willing to throw the ball about and try things, our team clearly werent. Good on em I say.
Exactly right. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Celtic have had little success win wise this season, but continue to try and play attractive rugby. My applause was for that reason. I honestly think it was a spontaneous gesture by the fans, and I would guess we are better thought of right now by them (Celtic), than we are by our own coach!
It's ok Agar trying to apportion some of blame on us fans, but it seemed that everytime we sent the ball wide we scored, so is it Agar's tactic's of playing the game down the middle that it strangling our natural game and not using the pace we have on the outside's.
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Jake the Peg wrote:Absolutely right. the coach should keep his opinions on the fans to himself. He's paid to coach the team not to try and deflect blame from himself by blaming anyone who he can think of. Last week the players, this week the fans. Who will it be next week?
Hypocrit
Apart from twisting what was said (booing doesn't help out when the team are full of nerves does not equate to blaming them for a poor performances).
If the coach is there solely to coach the team perhaps there should be no communication between club officials and the fans at all?
I suppose its been ok for players and coaches past and present to heap praise on the fans for our years of loyal support??? Or should they keep those opinions to themselves as well?
There is no wonder Hull FC has struggles to attract a top class coach when fans like you are evident. Can you imagine the conversation between Wayne Bennett and any former Hull player
"I have been offered the Hull job, any advice"
"Yes, you will have to win every game because the fans will tear you to bits unless you deliver all trophies on offer, and by the way thats in your normal day to day life, not just on match day"
Apart from twisting what was said (booing doesn't help out when the team are full of nerves does not equate to blaming them for a poor performances).
If the coach is there solely to coach the team perhaps there should be no communication between club officials and the fans at all?
I suppose its been ok for players and coaches past and present to heap praise on the fans for our years of loyal support??? Or should they keep those opinions to themselves as well?
There is no wonder Hull FC has struggles to attract a top class coach when fans like you are evident. Can you imagine the conversation between Wayne Bennett and any former Hull player
"I have been offered the Hull job, any advice"
"Yes, you will have to win every game because the fans will tear you to bits unless you deliver all trophies on offer, and by the way thats in your normal day to day life, not just on match day"
Interesting that I'm a hypocrite for daring to criticise performances and the coach's reaction to fans yet you come on here almost daily and have a go at paul king. What's the definition of a hypocrite again?
I'm not twisting anything. The fact is that the performances from the players have been unacceptable for months. The fans have continued to turn up in droves, following them around the country because they love the club. IMO, the crowd reaction last night was very tame given the dross served up.
agar is paid to do a job of coaching the team, not passing comment on the fact he isn't happy that the fans are voicing their opinions of him and the players.
And perhaps you can give me some evidence of when a top class coach has turned us down because the fans have been critical of under par performances under previous coaches? Or maybe you can give your opinion on why tony smith took the wire job after seeing the way the fans reacted to cullen on SKY?
Don't be so naive. Coaches know that they will be critcised by fans if things aren't going right. It's part and parcel of the job. If he can't stand the heat he should stay out of the kitchen
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