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suedehead. wrote:Agar hasn't said anything wrong!!! whether or not you rate him as a coach doesn't come into it, the team do need support from the fans.

We are becoming more like the wire fans each week. Disgraceful behaviour.



Ok he hasnt said anything wrong but he cant coach at this level its all there for us to see. Surely thats enough?

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suedehead. wrote:Agar hasn't said anything wrong!!! whether or not you rate him as a coach doesn't come into it, the team do need support from the fans.

We are becoming more like the wire fans each week. Disgraceful behaviour.


Like i have said previously the fans did support the team during that game!! FFS!!! Are we all to act like mushrooms and not express ourselves at what is fast becoming a dire situation at this club? Get in the real world won't you!

Oh and ny the way 10k plus turned out in the cold, crap conditions to watch us struggle to beat the worst team in the comp.....go figure.






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Completely out of his depth as some of us said from day one.

He also seems to be in the habbit of saying something regretable in post match press conferences <slurp>.

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Are you telling me despite recent performances you expected a magical performance last night ??

They are in poor form, low on confidence and you think the way too gee them up is to boo them??

If you don't like what you see then don't go, you have a choice.






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It's a bit of a catch 22 Imo. He's right in someways, you only have to have been at the Leeds game to see that when the crowd get behind the team they play better. I think we are entering a stage were the players dislike the fans, and that's never going to work. I think the solution is going to have to be mass replacement of the players.

Agar in his current position is not in a good place to be been negative about the fans.






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suedehead. wrote:Are you telling me despite recent performances you expected a magical performance last night ??


No, but I expected a massive improvement and we never got one.

suedehead. wrote:They are in poor form, low on confidence and you think the way too gee them up is to boo them??


I agree, but then I never booed them.

suedehead. wrote:If you don't like what you see then don't go, you have a choice.


True and some are clearly not going. I shall still be there though (guess that makes me a "sheep" or a "moron" according to some on here).

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Some of the comments on here are OTT for me. He was asked a question and ok maybe he could have thought about it a bit better but bloody hell come on!!

The biggest worry for me is that I'm finally hoping at the end of this season that a lot of the deadwood is going to be shown the door by Agar. If we replace him before the end of the season with somebody else some of these players who have taken the pi$$ out of our club for so long could get another chance under a different coach and that would upset me far more than a few words said in an interview 5 mins after a game.






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suedehead. wrote:Agar hasn't said anything wrong!!! whether or not you rate him as a coach doesn't come into it, the team do need support from the fans.


I agree.

The double standards on here is incredible. Agar is criticised for not keeping his thoughts to himself, yet we are all aware how important confidence is in sport and as a collective crowd have done our best to undermind individual players and the team.

Over the last 2 seasons at various times we have jeered Motu Tony, Craig Hall, Tommy Lee, Chris Thorman and the team generally. What positives have come of this?

It was evident last night in the first quarter that we were trying to promote the ball more, and get away from one man out rugby. It didn't work because of poor handling/execution. Imo this was clearly due to lack of confidence, but did we as a crowd try to lift the side and support this attempt to play a more expansive game? No, we got on the player's backs even more and this caused them to revert to type. And then we applaud/cheer the Crusaders for scoring against us! I wonder what Lauaki and Tansey thought of the faithful at that point.

The board and coaching staff are not without blame for this seasons failings. Administrative errors and poor recruitment/retention, allied with questionable selection/tactics have played their part. But we as a crowd have our part to play.

It is not surprising that our best rugby was played, in the second half against Leeds, when the pressure was lifted from the players and we got behind them. This is probably what Agar means about training well all week, when there is no pressure, and not reproducing that form on game day.

I know some people will say that enough is enough, and there comes a time when we have to let our feelings be known. I understand this, but we all know that we have an average squad. From the signings announced for next season it appears that Agar and the board know that too. Getting on the players backs now serves no purpose, other than to unsettle the team further.

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yello-belly wrote:I agree.

The double standards on here is incredible. Agar is criticised for not keeping his thoughts to himself, yet we are all aware how important confidence is in sport and as a collective crowd have done our best to undermind individual players and the team.

Over the last 2 seasons at various times we have jeered Motu Tony, Craig Hall, Tommy Lee, Chris Thorman and the team generally. What positives have come of this?



The fans have a right to voice their opinions. The players are happy to take the plaudits when things are going well. They are not immune from criticism

yello-belly wrote:It was evident last night in the first quarter that we were trying to promote the ball more, and get away from one man out rugby. It didn't work because of poor handling/execution. Imo this was clearly due to lack of confidence, but did we as a crowd try to lift the side and support this attempt to play a more expansive game? No, we got on the player's backs even more and this caused them to revert to type. And then we applaud/cheer the Crusaders for scoring against us! I wonder what Lauaki and Tansey thought of the faithful at that point.



You must have been watching a different game to me. I saw 39 minutes of complete dirge which epitomised our play under agar

yello-belly wrote:The board and coaching staff are not without blame for this seasons failings. Administrative errors and poor recruitment/retention, allied with questionable selection/tactics have played their part. But we as a crowd have our part to play.


The board and players are 100% to blame. The fans have been very patient but enough is enough

yello-belly wrote:It is not surprising that our best rugby was played, in the second half against Leeds, when the pressure was lifted from the players and we got behind them. This is probably what Agar means about training well all week, when there is no pressure, and not reproducing that form on game day.


It's not surprising our best rugby against leeds was played after they'd gone 36 - 12 up just after 1/2 time and took their foot off the gas. It's agar's job to get what happens on the training field to happen on game days

yello-belly wrote:I know some people will say that enough is enough, and there comes a time when we have to let our feelings be known. I understand this, but we all know that we have an average squad. From the signings announced for next season it appears that Agar and the board know that too. Getting on the players backs now serves no purpose, other than to unsettle the team further.


Finally some sense. Enough is enough

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I had to listen on radio and I kept hearing cheers when Hull did something wrong and especially when Celtic scored.
Irony at it's best but is usually reserved for a top of the table team when they are getting beat by poor opposition not a crap team being beaten by even worse dog poo.
We are at a low ebb and agar is not good enough poor bloke.
Agar to U21s now with Sharp and Last until end of miserable season.
Next week ......glad I am on holiday as Morgan ( our next coach) will make it 7 out of 10 derby wins since they came up - which is a disgrace in itself






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