There isn't necessarily any problem yet. Nowhere is it written that we have to announce new signings at the same time as everyone else.

Although this is a joke? I am concerned by how people are believing that this would be a good move

Two forwards contracts are up at the end of the season and we need to strengthen in those areas as it is a weakness in our team and a reason why we lag behind the top two and it is something that nearly every Wigan fan acknowledges on this board. So why then are people now suggesting just re-signing them is a good move quite frankly baffles me.

We need to replace them with players who will be an improvement. I will stress this again we need improvement and not 'stability'. Especially not in your forwards. Halfbacks I can understand and I would maybe accept this nonsense of 'stability' if we were top of the league and in with a great shout of the grand final but we're not. If we want to get to the top again we're going to have to improve when average players like Coley and Bailey's contracts are up.

The same nonsense 'their form has improved this last season'. Improved from what? Very average! The only reason people have noticed them is because they have actually been above average. Not top draw which you would expect from one of your overseas players in Bailey in particular.

Why in the world we would want to extend Coley and Baileys contracts when players like David Kidwell, Frank Puletua, Carl Webb, Brent Kite are available I don't know.

Just suggests two things to me. Our owner does not know how to handle negotiations and our fans are accepting mediocrity.

dont suppose anything

we let go of all sorts of players last year on suspected mega bucks (barrett, higham) and signed likes of roberts.

when i posted where has the money gone i was shouted down by people saying we have increased contracts of players we already had.

dont assume that players leaving frees up cap space. common sense would say it should but i am in no way convinced our current chairman knows how to successfully use the cap.

we will likely lose smith, fielden, bailey, carmont and sign 2 bog standard sl players.

Why would we want to loan out two brilliant prop forwards who have been hard grafters for the club this season for Andy Coley? Who has only ever turned in above average performances and is pushing the end of his career and has never really out performed Paul Prescott or Eamon O'carroll like a senior player should do.

It's almost as daft as people saying we should loan out Michael McIlorum so we can bring in another halfback and move Leuluai to hooker.

I think you could safely argue that he knows how to use it better than the previous one.

And please don't just dismiss this as an irrelevant point. Mo's miscalculation almost got us relegated out of existance.

you might as well stay at home next year then. coley has been offered a new contract and has to choose between wigan , wire and saints by monday where he wants to go. I believe he wants to stay at wigan. that is his first choice by a very good source. sorry cadoo but dont come next year

surely carmont will be kept on? he was the best centre we had since renouf until gleeson was signed

Why would he go to Saints or Wire? He'd be about 87th choice i wouldnt even imagine they would be in for him. Id let him go anywere and run with Fielden Feka Prescott Eamon and Mossop if we didnt sign a new prop.

Coley would be an excellent signing for both of these teams as he’s a perfect third choice prop who will do a hard stint in a team with little reward or recognition much in the same way Fozzard used to do.

He’d fit right in at Saints when Cayless leaves and with Graham, Pauleta & Mary around him he’d excel there just like Fozzard did. Same goes for Warrington if they replace Rauhihi with Coley as he’d offer some graft when Morley and Carvell go off.

Coley gets a lot of undue criticism on here for me and I’d take him on a one year deal with a further year in Wigan’s favour at the expense of O’Carroll and still try to sign Webb. We could then replace Fielden with LMS the season after meaning the loss of O’Carroll potentialy won’t be that bad to handle.

Five front line props is the way forward for me and

LMS
Webb
Coley
Feka
Prescott

Is a good line up

I agree you need 5 and my 5 for next year would be Fielden Feka Prescott Eamonn and Mossop before Coley. I dont see this hes the perfect 3rd choice prop at all. Id be happy to see him go, get a rough and tough character in and loan out Eamonn or Mossop.