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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:31 pm 
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Pie Eyed wrote:Adjusting to the UK game ???
Getting to know his team-mates ???

Like I keep saying - The vast majority of overseas imports need a season to start playing as well as they can.

Let's see the stats next year, because now that Piggy has started to scoot sometimes, he seems to make some really good yards most of the time.


How would 'getting to know your team mates' effect dummy half running? :?

Surely it would be when we move the ball out when 'getting to know your team mates' matters

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JTB wrote:It's pretty naive to assume the only involvement a Hooker has is from scoots.


primary role is to strike at the ball in the scrum :wink:






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AJ wrote:Oh :oops:

Well I knew it wouldnt be the best in the league, but that is very poor.

Intrestingly for those who love to slate Phelps, he is joint top of our assists with Tommy.


http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2549&hs2=2005&hp2=551&stat=tries&season=2009

I wouldn't take it too seriously but not bad.
AJ wrote:Oh :oops:

Well I knew it wouldnt be the best in the league, but that is very poor.

Intrestingly for those who love to slate Phelps, he is joint top of our assists with Tommy.


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Pie Eyed wrote:Abso-bloody-lutely mate.


Abso-bloody-lutely not, mate. :wink:

    Riddell 117 from 19 = 6.15 per match average.
    Higham 109 from 15 = 7.26 average per match.


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DaveO wrote:Abso-bloody-lutely not, mate. :wink:

    Riddell 117 from 19 = 6.15 per match average.
    Higham 109 from 15 = 7.26 average per match.

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Jukesays wrote:Have a look at Higham's "Stats" for last year!

161 for the Whole Year, was he not "Fit Enough"????? Not Quick Enough?????

Pointless thread, You could pick holes in every player if you want to like that!


It's about time people stop being fixated on Riddell being better than Higham as if this means he is good enough. The dummy half stats show he is worse this year anyway on that score but that isn't the point.

The point is there are 15 others better than him in the league on that particular stats and he doesn't stack up too well on some of the other stats either.

Poor signing.

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DaveO wrote:Abso-bloody-lutely not, mate. :wink:

    Riddell 117 from 19 = 6.15 per match average.
    Higham 109 from 15 = 7.26 average per match.

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So he runs more from Dummy Half??? So What???? He makes less metres per carry etc etc etc.
BTW - Higham played almost 80 mins in all his matches early season due to Clarkes injury so I would like to know his "Scoots" per game based on minutes played if you want to look at it like that.

Far better all round player than Higham and now a few fans have got over their "Must dislike at all costs" (Although not all of them obviously) attitude they are now seeing that we are a better team for him in the team.

Overall I think he is 80% of the player I hoped for although I do believe there is quite a bit more to come but nowhere near as disappointed as I was with Higham's contribution for the first 2 1/2 years of his stay!

In fact given the FACT that Riddell has played more games Yet Higham played more minutes early seaosn per game I would hazard a guess their "Game Time" this season is similar????

If that is the case then I don't think there is a lot of difference in their Stats other than Riddell More metres per Run Carry, Oh, And the obvious less Penalties (Less than Half as many as Higham) & Less mistakes (Again Less than Half as many as Higham).

As Rogues pointed out earlier, our distribution is a million times better and despite losing Barrett we have looked a lot more expansice IMO.






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A mate of mine from Oz went the Catalan game with me and said that Riddell was a bit of a folk hero at St George and was a good NRL player. He would never make Origin or Kangaroos though. Not the caliber of player we need.

When he has shot out of dummy half with runners he has looked decent, needs to do it more often.






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