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cadoo wrote:Chad Randall 288 - 1418 metres Terry Newton 261 - 1266 metres Keiron Cunningham 199 - 1299 metres Brad Drew 194 - 999 metres James Roby 189 - 2012 metres (christ!) Malcolm Alker 173 - 1123 metres Scott Moore 172 - 1230 metres Ben Fisher 165 - 1299 metres Shaun Berrigan 155 - 1560 metres Lincoln Withers 151 - 949 metres Neil Budworth 150 - 998 metres Matt Diskin 134 - 841 metres Casey McGuire 132 - 853 metres Ryan Hudson 119 - 788 metres Mark Riddell 117 - 1080 metres
So looking at that, if you roughly added half again of what Riddel has done to his stats he'd be on something like 180 runs from dummyhalf with 1600 metres made, only Berrigan and Randall are close(obviously Roby exceeds that). So if we can get him to up his dummyhalf running we could on to a winner.
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AJ wrote:I havent been overly impressed with Riddell yet but he isnt a "scooter" so to merely look at metres seems a pointless exercise. Surely for a more creative hooker, we need to look at try assists and things like that as well.
Try assists is just 1 but considering we never score up the middle maybe thats not too bad.
LovesToSpooge wrote:So looking at that, if you roughly added half again of what Riddel has done to his stats he'd be on something like 180 runs from dummyhalf with 1600 metres made, only Berrigan and Randall are close(obviously Roby exceeds that). So if we can get him to up his dummyhalf running we could on to a winner.
It just depends if that is what you want.
We get criticised for one out rugby.
That is none out rugby, a one man charge.
What I think it does prove is that Riddell mixes up his game better than most, i.e scooting and passing, and is picking the right time to do it.
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Rogues Gallery wrote:It just depends if that is what you want.
We get criticised for one out rugby. That is none out rugby, a one man charge.
What I think it does prove is that Riddell mixes up his game better than most, i.e scooting and passing, and is picking the right time to do it.
I wouldn't say that by running from dummyhalf you play one man Rugby, look at saints both Roby and Cunningham have run from dummy half 190 times or more each, yet Saints style of play is far from boring. The key like you state is picking the right time to run, and for me who runs.
Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0
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It's pretty naive to assume the only involvement a Hooker has is from scoots. Look at the number of tries scored by our threequarters or the quality of ball the halfbacks and forwards are getting. Trying to assess a player on statistics like that is a total waste of time.
JTB wrote:It's pretty naive to assume the only involvement a Hooker has is from scoots. Look at the number of tries scored by our threequarters or the quality of ball the halfbacks and forwards are getting. Trying to assess a player on statistics like that is a total waste of time.
That was the point I was making.
We have scored far more tries wide out this season, and that is without the class of Barrett in our side.
A big contribution to that is the better distribution we've had from dummy half this season, but to be fair it couldn't have been much worse.
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