What I'm saying is that so many teams who have come up through 'normal' promotion have struggled and often gone back down. A three year breathing space for any new team into SL is a good thing.

I have no doubt that Widnes, Leigh & Halifax are massive contenders for the next round, but they'll also need three years to adapt, not 1.

I don't think we can say Crusaders has been a failure until 2011, when the new applications are submitted.

Anything they touch goes wrong, they should never have been in this season.

Now we know why Jace van Dijk and Tony Duggan are being released. However I think you are jumping the gun here.

[i"Players from Super League side Celtic Crusaders are being investigated by the UK Border Agency over possible immigration offences."[/i

They have not been found guilty of anything yet.

How many Sports clubs bring in players on Visa's each year though and you never hear of this!

Jumping gun? Surely if Cru where fully ready visa's would of been sorted before start of year especially for Duggan, Quinn & Van Dijk etc, plus they obv messed them up somehwere to be investigated!

All I'm saying is let's wait and see before condemning anyone. Despite what you have just written, nothing has yet been proven. You're going to look pretty silly if they get the all clear.

Never said they done anything wrong exactly, but no smoke without fire!