NickyKiss wrote:We obviously haven't made a move for next season yet which will probably end up costing us.
We can't keep leaving everything until the last minute because we're just ending up with the dregs!
Whilst Leeds, Warrington, Hull KR and Saints battle it out for the best players we get left fighting with Salford and Cas for the duffers.
We always make panic signings like Roberts was IMO. If we cannot sign anyone top class from overseas who has at least played SOO or played in grand finals then we should be looking to our young players to step up.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
odemwingie wrote:We always make panic signings like Roberts was IMO. If we cannot sign anyone top class from overseas who has at least played SOO or played in grand finals then we should be looking to our young players to step up.
Roberts was lined up for 2010 but got signed due to us having the room under the cap to fit him in. That is a shocking way of dealing with squad recruitment. We didn't need a winger because at the start of the year we had Richards, Phelps, Pryce, Ainscough and even Goulding who could play there and we should have held onto the cash and waited to see if a player in a position we needed became available.
If we had done that we then may have been able to make the call that we didn't need Roberts for 2010 afterall and used that money to again bring in a player in a position that was needed.
NickyKiss wrote:Roberts was lined up for 2010 but got signed due to us having the room under the cap to fit him in. That is a shocking way of dealing with squad recruitment. We didn't need a winger because at the start of the year we had Richards, Phelps, Pryce, Ainscough and even Goulding who could play there and we should have held onto the cash and waited to see if a player in a position we needed became available.
If we had done that we then may have been able to make the call that we didn't need Roberts for 2010 afterall and used that money to again bring in a player in a position that was needed.
We also had Colbon who could easily do a good job on the wing for Wigan as long as we got a good centre inside him. Gardner is average but looks awesome with Gidley inside.
Riddell has still not hit form yet as well.
Pretty much all our signings for quite a few years have been poor other than Carmont, Richards and Feka.
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
odemwingie wrote:We also had Colbon who could easily do a good job on the wing for Wigan as long as we got a good centre inside him. Gardner is average but looks awesome with Gidley inside.
Riddell has still not hit form yet as well.
Pretty much all our signings for quite a few years have been poor other than Carmont, Richards and Feka.
All our signings under Lenagan have been backs with the exception of Mark Riddell and thats plain strange when we've had a pi*s weak pack for the past few years.
We've spent big money on wingers time and again over the past 4 or 5 years and i don't honestly get why. Unless you get a freakish wingman like Vainikolo why bother? If your centres are good enough all you need is a plodder like Gardner who can catch and put the ball down. The 2 English wingers(Fox and Hall) in the recent test match are exactly the sort of solid, prety cheap wingmen you can get through with. They both do the simple things well but have good players on the inside of them.
NickyKiss wrote:All our signings under Lenagan have been backs with the exception of Mark Riddell and thats plain strange when we've had a pi*s weak pack for the past few years.
We've spent big money on wingers time and again over the past 4 or 5 years and i don't honestly get why. Unless you get a freakish wingman like Vainikolo why bother? If your centres are good enough all you need is a plodder like Gardner who can catch and put the ball down. The 2 English wingers(Fox and Hall) in the recent test match are exactly the sort of solid, prety cheap wingmen you can get through with. They both do the simple things well but have good players on the inside of them.
Thats exactly the point I am trying to make, we could of had Ainscough and Colbon on the wings for the next 8 years and then get some quality centres in for them.
Fox and Hall IMO are two quality players but neither are world beaters.
Was Coley not signed under IL as well?
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
odemwingie wrote:Thats exactly the point I am trying to make, we could of had Ainscough and Colbon on the wings for the next 8 years and then get some quality centres in for them.
Fox and Hall IMO are two quality players but neither are world beaters.
We have bails, smith and phelps off contract who provide quota places.
Who would it be?
Orford, Logan, Hunt
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS
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