If the women win the final that will be 2 world cups in a few months,surely they'll be the team of the year in the BBC sports awards later on this year.

and lost to the mighty Holland.

Agreed.

We didn't lack effort or passion, we lacked runs and big hitters in the middle-lower order.

Our whole tournament was summed up from about over 11 until we had batted 19.4 overs against the West Indies in the Super Eights when we hadn't hit one boundary in that period!

Simply not good enough in this form of the game.

While I find it hard to get too worked up about T20, win or lose, I do think the overwhelming focus on The Ashes we have in England may well be to the detriment of the team.

It's almost as if nothing else matters, as soon as we lost the last series comment seemed to turn to this series, with everything in between as an afterthought. Yes the Ashes are prized by the Ockers too, but they don't make it the be all and end all, and seem to have a more focused, professional attitude to all their series' and opponents.

Thats been a problem since 2005 when we won it over here.

Since then the players seem to have struggled to get themselves up for any other test series and have paid the price. They'll be bang up for this series coming up but that doesn't mean they'll get the win because they're up against a side that'll be determined to prove a few people wrong who've wrote them off.

I think KP is the prime example of this. He's the best batsman in the world quite easily imo but he just doesn't seem to be able to get pumped up 95% of the time and looks to have been waiting for this Ashes series to some round for about 2 years now.

He'll hit mountains of runs imo.

we could get another 5-nil win

The best batsmen in the world don't just perform when they want to, they do it all the time...ie Ponting, Jayawardene, Tendulkar, Chanderpaul to name but 4...KP has almost all the attributes to be the best batsman in the world but his concentration/decision-making at times stop him getting to the very top spot...in my opinion of course.

The england women are paggering the kiwis

Superb performance so far.

Did Sri Lanka do well to pull their innings around, or did Pakistan just remember their instructions from the bookies?

Looked bleak for SL early doors but I think they'll do it now.