No, calling anyone who disagrees a 't0sser' makes you right. Any idiot knows that.

Apologies exSafordUni.

First Red Joldsworth please check what "rights" mean. Also please explain how you shout loudest on a WRITTEN site.

Also Salfords No 1 (name says so much) - again check on what "rights" mean. Also I do not give a monkey if a poster has paid to go to every match since 1901 ... it's the quality of his/her opimions that matter.

His are poor as the supporting evidence simply is not there. As are both of yours.

Which bit's realistic - the bit about spending money we don't have or the bit about letting non-existent investors take over?

GT: I assure you I'm not having a nervous break down I am just stating the facts as I see them. How many times have we sold a promising young player on the verge of a great international future and signed 2 or 3 aussies who the fans agree didn't live up to expectations.

How many times have we signed big name players at least 5 years past their best and had to pay them top dollar because of who they are and not what they are.

For those who say that it is best to have a club rather than win stuff at a risk . We all want Salford Reds to be here but why have we got to continually put up with making up the numbers.

Why haven't we got enough fans? COS WE NEVER WIN ANYTHING
To win stuff we need our best players to stay.

Ray of sunshine am GT: Show me the light at the end of this tunnel and I will become the brightest ray you could wish for. If you don't like my opinion tough!! But insult me I don't think so. Get a reality chech QUICK

various promotions, cups in the second tier?

speak to a widnes fan (spent too much, went bust, look where they are now) a swinton fan (assets became too much to run, went bust, look where they are now), an oldham fan (went bust twice? look where they are now), a rochdale fan (re-formed as community club this year with points deductions - look where they are now)...

ask yourself what makes our club different to those? it's the money that our board have personally put in to maintain the club as a going concern...

various fans on this thread need to accept the reality of what we are.

We do!!!! Trophies in the 2nd tier and promotions doesn't bring the fans in as our attendances show.

If we must accept what we are we should have stayed in the championship where we had a chance of winning those second tier competitions. Either the club has ambition to play and compete in SL or it doesn't.

If it does- keep Myler, and Turner et al at all costs
If it doesn't- get back into the championship and stop promising us we are going somewhere.

By the way. At no point did I say that the board have not put money into the club!!!! What I said was they were guilty of wasting it!!!!!!!

In regards to your statement above can you please tell me how many times we've done that and who they were because I can't for the life of me think of any?

Cheers

I also lost count at none..?

Terry O'connor for one. Paul Groves left us and immediately got in the GB team. Admittedley it didn't work out at saints for him!

The more telling statement I made was the number of big money hasbeens we've had.

Andy Gregory, Martin Offiah, Bobby Goulding, Garry Jack (2nd time rnd), George Nicholls, Peter Glynn, Kieron O'loughlin, Willie Talau.

I'm sure you can think of a few more.

i cant think of any promising young talents who've left us for bigger and better things?

McAvoy to Bradford maybe?
Stephen Myler has maybe gone on to better things but he wouldnt have made it in RL anyway...