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Cibaman wrote:English seamer that has done well against a poor side in English conditions in spring. Quite a few have susequently vanished without trace.
If taking wickets against whichever team you play against in the county championship is not the criteria the ECB pick their international team on then please tell me what is??
I'm sure if Harmison or Monty had returned to the county fold and taken as many wickets as Onions has then they would be straight back in.
airliebird9 wrote:If taking wickets against whichever team you play against in the county championship is not the criteria the ECB pick their international team on then please tell me what is??
It's usually the criteria for the Headingley test, when plenty of the leading county championship wicket ticket takers get picked. Trouble is they dont often do that well against the better test teams elsewhere.
Andrew Strauss (captain)
James Anderson
Ian Bell
Ravinder Bopara
Tim Bresnan
Stuart Broad
Paul Collingwood
Alastair Cook
Andrew Flintoff
Graham Onions
Monty Panesar
Kevin Pietersen
Matt Prior
Adil Rashid
Ryan Sidebottom
Graeme Swann
Looking through that squad I don't see any involvement for either Rashid or Bresnan. Especially Bresnan to be honest as I don't see what he offers at Test level.
Bell is probably only there to make up the numbers, however, if Bopara is struggling, Bell is probably better placed to come into the starting XI than others such as Vaughan, Key or Shah.
Similarly with Panesar, I can't see him displacing Swann from the starting XI for the first couple of Tests. However, if the Aussies work him out pretty quickly, you can rely on Panesar to come in and do a job, especially on the English wickets. Probably what shades it for Swann is his batting and his variation. Not sure how much work Panesar has done on the latter but he has little hope of competing with Swann with bat in hand.
Probably the only selection headache for Flower/Strauss is Onions or Sidebottom. Both have done well against poorer performing Test nations (WI/NZ most notably) and although Sidebottom has more experience, I think I'd go for Onions initially. He is taking wickets for fun at County level, something Sidebottom hasn't had the opportunity to do with coming back from injury and almsot immediately joining up with the T20 squad. Given the poor performance from ENgland in the tournament, I think it would have been more beneficial for Sidebottom to have just got in some County Championship form with Notts.
PAUL M wrote:Despite the fact he has been in excellent form this season?
Like he was last season.
We've seen this pattern before, he gets dropped, does well for his county, gets recalled, does OK when he first comes back to the test team, drops off again sharpishly.
He's had his time, we have to move on and give some younger players a chance to establish themselves rather than have them just keeping Harmison's place warm until he can be arsed again.
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