Pretty much sums it up for me.

We knew all this pretty early on in the season and have wasted yet another season "transitioning" or whatever bullshit phrase is en vogue this week. I only hope Lenegan has a long term plan that at the moment he can't divulge.

I know exactly what you mean Jonh, but please don't tell me you're swaying to Union!

I played both and have always found union to be a very dull sport indeed, and certainly have taken no interest in the Guinness Premiership, despite having a few mates who play in it.

I did however one night recently catch the highlights show on one of the obscure ITV channels, and while i appreciate it is only highlights was impressed with what i saw, regards the skill level and pace of the attacks leading to try's. I appreciate there is a lot of dross that is cut out in the highlights real but it still did not remove from the clinical nature of the try's they scored, the skills involved in it and the angles they ran to generate the space. It was like watching rugby league of 5-10 years ago.

I have had a few freebie offers from my mates to go watch England at HQ, never considered it before but if asked again i think i will go. I would never pay to watch it mind.

In truth i have found myself more drawn to the grass routes game of League, really enjoyed getting out and watching the kids prior to them going into the pro systems and having all there flair, pace and enthusiasm coached out of them, most of the games i have seen i have enjoyed far more than anything Sl has had to offer this year.

I do,

I have been a season ticket holder every year since 1988 (appart for 96)
and of those seasons i have only missed about 20 games including world club champs in Aus.

I used to look forward to game day from about tuesday, and it would ruin my weekend if we lost.

However last year and certanly this year, i to be honest dont really care, yes i enjoy it when we win, although due to circumstances i am still waiting to go to a game where i see us win.

However when we loose, i just dont feel anything anymore, I just feel that if the players dont care, why should i bother?

Its not just about loosing, 2006 was one of my favorite seasons, its the manor in which the club is being run (from a coaching point of view), that is making me loose interest.

I am not renewing my season ticket next year, i will just pick and choose my games, may go against saints warrington and leeds, but thats going to be about it, and to be honest, if i have anything else even remotly entertaining that weekend i probably wont be at the game.

I realise that im only 1 man, and my contribution to the club is minimal, as apart from a season ticket i dont buy anything else (shirts, t-shirts, programmes etc). But the gennerall apathy from the lads who i go with (about 20 of us) we are all doing the same next year, so thats 21 season tickets not being bought, and i bet many on here will feel the same.

Sorry for the length of the post.

Couldnt agree anymore.
Well and truely bored of watching us and Im generally bored of rugby too

8 teams in a playoff system, absolute farce.
75% of the season means nothing and its showing. All the games I have seen this season, both watching wigan and on sky have been boring

heart is going

I don't think its Wigan its the game as a whole. They brought the cap in but fact is if we'd have a top wins the title system Saints won be on course for a sixth consecutive championship and a fourth consecutive Challenge Cup this year. That's a Salary Cap working according the GMR commentary lads and those Sky pundits.

Like I said in the other thread I geniunely believe it's the Aussie imports that are ruining our game for all clubs. There are odd gems but most of not better than what we have. The NRL is equally as poor for me.

I don't want to go back to the days of when Wigan dominated, I don't want to see any side dominate, but in those days all the other sides had quality players as well. Don't think that's the case today. That test match may have been a walkover on Saturday but on paper I'm embarrassed by it.

A passage from the Wigan Reporter article last week: -

The feeling is spreading like swine flu. If we keep with the same going into next season, It will be reflected in the season ticket sales. You can have the best marketing team but if your selling cr*p, you wont have many buyers.

I posted after the Wakefield home game that my brother and nephew (not father and son) said it was abysmal and would not go again. People thought this was a premature decision but it has proved to be an enlightened decision and the rest of us who have remained loyal have had to put up with too much dross with only 2 or 3 enjoyable games.
I have been exceptionally lucky this season in regard to away games.
I've been to Harlequins, Murrayfield, Barrow, Warrington (friendly) and Wakefield (twice), seeing Wigan win each game. I have not been to any other away games. And I don't think I'll be going to any more unless we get a new coach.
I feel sorry for the fans who go to each away game. It isn't the losing. It's the manner in which we lose.
I've still to watch a team that doesn't have more planned moves than Wigan. Every team moves it wide along the backline, with 2 dummy runners, creating an overlap for their winger. It's obvious they have all copied this move. Why don't we!
I think the players get battered with our style of rugby and react by having a 'rest' in certain games ( e.g. Celtic away)
I was talking to an ex-professional who said he got fed up of getting battered and would rest himself some weeks (on the pitch). If we played a more expansive game with dummy runners we wouldn't get roughed up by gang tackles because the opposition wouldn't know who was receiving the ball