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First of all, sorry for the long post but my thoughts on last nightare this.

Haynes should have started at FB - we have a 3 year license. For God's sake, let's use it when injuries and international call ups occur to develop our younger players.

Welham, Webster, Walker and one of the reserves who is a genuine winger should have been in the three quarters. I thought Jake was one of our better players last night and about the only player who looked interested in tackling. Welham looked fantasttic when moved to FB, I don't think we need worry about having to cover Briscoe in the future.

Cooke and Dobson should be our fisrt choice half back pairing. Both have started to gel (obviously not last night!) and Cooke did at least try to get things going last night.

Given injuries to props, Fozzard and Mills (he did ok at Hudds) should have started with Wheeldon and Macca on the bench. All the props should be rotated regularly i.e. Fozzard should not be doing 30 min+ stints.

Fisher should alway start at hooker and we should let him play for as long as possible. None of this interchaging with Fitzhenry as Fisher has gone backwards since we adopted this tactic. A 15 min spell here and there is not long enough to introduce him into the match, get into his rhythm and and read the game to make the breaks he used to do regularly.

Second row should be Newton and Galea - it picks itself as does Murrell at forward.

Bench would have been Gene, Aizue, Wheeldon and AN Other. We should NOT be picking Fitzhenry just because he is a quota player. I get the feeling we play him for the sake of it and try to crow bar him into the team to justify his presumably high wages.

Last night too many players were well under par. I have never seen so many established players such as Galea, Newton, Fozzard, Walker, Murrell miss so many tackles and show a complete lack of disinterest.

I have said to friends I go to the games with that we do lack strength in depth at the moment, and the superb defensive efforts we put in earlier in the year were bound to tell eventually. I think our only major, major weakness is a lack of squad cover to rest the likes of Galea, Fozzard etc. Unfortunately at the minute once the likes of Vella get injured, we have limited numbers to cover significant absences like this.

Going back to the top of this post, it is another reason why we should pick some of the reserves from time to time to blood them and get them integrated into first team and SL rugby.

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in depth but correct on everthing said imo.

After the lack of team spirit and togetherness last night i'm starting to worry about the rumours of training room bust ups and fall outs possibly being true. just didnt have the spirit of earlier in the season. I think clint is awesome but looked like he had a dummy not a gum shield last night. Not the only one but he just seemed to be disinterested with his hands on his hips a lot.

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cofr_rockin_robin wrote:Fitzhenry played last year at full back against Cas, proven not a full back. Along with Leroy Joe and Goulding he must rate as one of the worst overseas signings I HAVE SEEN!

Get a grip Morgan , are you the Phil Brown (Tinker Man) of East Hull ?

Fisher has gone backwards but needs to start from the off!
Macca needs more game time simple as.
Fitzhenry is a winger and poor one at that , keep him there or pay him off!
Walker is not a centre , thats why Leeds put him in second row !

There needs to be a major clear out next year!


Are you for real, or just a simple a Hull fc fan? :?

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cofr_rockin_robin wrote:Yep major clearout ........

Mills , waste of time.
Fitzhenry get rid .
Netherton average championship player.
Lovegrove , not good enough .
Walker - get rid never a centre in his life, Leeds put him at second row.


It is evident that your rugby league knowledge is limmited as Lovegrove was a player with one of the highest number of metres gained, before his injury and was starting to find the form he showed when he first arrived at the club. :?

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BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff wrote:You know, I agree.

At least if your getting rattled with the scoreline, show some fight literally and take someone's head off.

Saying that though, if Fozzard would have battered Orr, which he could have done easily, Super Duper league would have given him a lengthy ban.

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You dont have to take someones head off to play tough.

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I agree with all of what robinho said except about welham at fb, he ran the ball out well but was well off positionslly in defence. He never swept the back line as a full back would, not a criticism, just he's not a fb. Better than fitzy tho'.

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robinho wrote:First of all, sorry for the long post but my thoughts on last nightare this.

Haynes should have started at FB - we have a 3 year license. For God's sake, let's use it when injuries and international call ups occur to develop our younger players.

Welham, Webster, Walker and one of the reserves who is a genuine winger should have been in the three quarters. I thought Jake was one of our better players last night and about the only player who looked interested in tackling. Welham looked fantasttic when moved to FB, I don't think we need worry about having to cover Briscoe in the future.

Cooke and Dobson should be our fisrt choice half back pairing. Both have started to gel (obviously not last night!) and Cooke did at least try to get things going last night.

Given injuries to props, Fozzard and Mills (he did ok at Hudds) should have started with Wheeldon and Macca on the bench. All the props should be rotated regularly i.e. Fozzard should not be doing 30 min+ stints.

Fisher should alway start at hooker and we should let him play for as long as possible. None of this interchaging with Fitzhenry as Fisher has gone backwards since we adopted this tactic. A 15 min spell here and there is not long enough to introduce him into the match, get into his rhythm and and read the game to make the breaks he used to do regularly.

Second row should be Newton and Galea - it picks itself as does Murrell at forward.

Bench would have been Gene, Aizue, Wheeldon and AN Other. We should NOT be picking Fitzhenry just because he is a quota player. I get the feeling we play him for the sake of it and try to crow bar him into the team to justify his presumably high wages.

Last night too many players were well under par. I have never seen so many established players such as Galea, Newton, Fozzard, Walker, Murrell miss so many tackles and show a complete lack of disinterest.

I have said to friends I go to the games with that we do lack strength in depth at the moment, and the superb defensive efforts we put in earlier in the year were bound to tell eventually. I think our only major, major weakness is a lack of squad cover to rest the likes of Galea, Fozzard etc. Unfortunately at the minute once the likes of Vella get injured, we have limited numbers to cover significant absences like this.

Going back to the top of this post, it is another reason why we should pick some of the reserves from time to time to blood them and get them integrated into first team and SL rugby.


Top post and well written , it sums up what is wrong at the moment with Rovers. I too believe that since Fisher has been given his long 3 year contract he has gone backwards. He should be on from the start and encouraged to achieve more runs from dummy half.

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Seventies red wrote:Are you for real, or just a simple a Hull fc fan? :?


I've been supporting Rovers since the seventies matey not one of the bandwagon lot so if I pay my money I have a right to comment. Fitzhenry is a waste of space and should be paid off and sent back to Australia. Alternatively just leave him on the wing.

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Seventies red wrote:It is evident that your rugby league knowledge is limmited as Lovegrove was a player with one of the highest number of metres gained, before his injury and was starting to find the form he showed when he first arrived at the club. :?


And it is also painfully evident that Lovegrove is not a prop never will be , he's too small to be a prop although granted he did play well before his injury.

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