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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:04 pm 
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I think your forwrads got beat, which stopped Dobson and Cooke playing on the front foot which inturn cancelled out Galea and Newton running out wide, which is what they did very well at the Stoop.(Take a breath!)

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wire-quin wrote:I think your forwrads got beat, which stopped Dobson and Cooke playing on the front foot which inturn cancelled out Galea and Newton running out wide, which is what they did very well at the Stoop.(Take a breath!)

I'm sure when your players come back you will start winning again
think thats spot on. last 3 games played behind a beaten pack

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It is worrying that our pack is getting so dominated in recent games, our line speed for me has slowed right down and our willingness to show any enthusiasm.

Far to much one-man rugby played aswell last night.






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hkrovers wrote:think thats spot on. last 3 games played behind a beaten pack


and the old adage still rings true , it's the forwards who determine who wins - the backs by how many.






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We were poor last night due to the pack been ineffective for the 2nd week running against a small Quins outfit. The kicking game been poor especially compared to the Quins, and giving away to many stupid penalties and piggy backing the opposition up the field.....
All in all BACK TO BASICS!

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General Zod. wrote:After 4 years in charge there has been the odd game where I think he would have done things differently, thankfully for us these games are very rare and he learns from his mistakes.


Does he? Last night was the same situation as Castleford away last season, when Fitzhenry was at full back and Gommersall on the wing, both players being played out of position.

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retro_muz wrote:I thought Quins performance last night was like the one we put in at the Stoop, well drilled, full of enthusiasm and playing for each other as a collective.

We look very tired at the minute, players missing and people playing out of position, for me last night wasn’t a surprise. However we’ll bounce back, keep the faith.


Agreed. From the posts I have read so far, no-one seems to have given Harlequins any credit. They did everything right, nothing flash, nothing too experimental. They are doing the basics right and are not in a flase position. They remind me of Catalans last year and look how they did.

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rover49 wrote:Been saying for a while, we need a couple of players who can offload the ball and keep it alive, teams usually have at least one, we don't have any and as a result our players are not used to that style of play, which results in the debacle like last night when a ball get slipped out of a tackle and the Rovers player (Newton) is caught by complete suprise and fumbles it.

Quins were good value for their win, they play good supportive rugby and keep the ball alive. One player we should have kept is Tangles, he had the ability to get the ball out in the tackle on a regular basis or we could have nipped in for Danny Sculthorpe who does the same. Its all well and good signing top props like Vella and Fozzy, but we need some variation and we are not getting it and are becoming predictble.

I have said I will be happy with 6th and I think thats about all we can hope for as I can see several defeats coming up with our squad not been good enough from 1 to 25, we have a very good 1 to 17, but are bolloxed after that when we have players out. When the announce said what the team was I immediately knew we had lost it.


Agree with the mojority of this. Regarding the offloads, we also struggle to defend them. We look terrible in broken play, and attack poorly when we do offload.

I aslo fear our line being broken as we look vulnerable there too. Most of Huddersfield's tries last week were from clean breaks, as were Wigan's when we played them, and we conceed a lot from them. Furthermore, when make a line break ourselves, we don't build on it. When Dobson broke through last night and tried to pass, there was no-one there! It that was Leeds, Webb, Burrows or McGuire would have been under the sticks, similar story when Cooke broke the line (though I appreciate Fitzhenry was carrying an injury).

But my biggest worry is quite simple. We have no Plan B.

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Dave K. wrote:I have to agree with some of the comments on here, I have watched Rovers first team and Reserves a few times this year, Morgan made too many changes, I think he should have gone with this team.

Haynes
Fitzhenry
Walker
Webster
Welham
Cooke
Dobson
Fozzard
Fisher
Wheeldon
Newton
Galea
Murrell

Aizue
Gene
Netherton
Spaven

Fisher is a must to try and combat Quins made threat from Randall, Haynes is not a winger and fitz is not a FB and that showed last night.


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I'd swap Welham with Webster but agree with this squad.

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Barky wrote:Agree with the mojority of this. Regarding the offloads, we also struggle to defend them. We look terrible in broken play, and attack poorly when we do offload.

I aslo fear our line being broken as we look vulnerable there too. Most of Huddersfield's tries last week were from clean breaks, as were Wigan's when we played them, and we conceed a lot from them. Furthermore, when make a line break ourselves, we don't build on it. When Dobson broke through last night and tried to pass, there was no-one there! It that was Leeds, Webb, Burrows or McGuire would have been under the sticks, similar story when Cooke broke the line (though I appreciate Fitzhenry was carrying an injury).

But my biggest worry is quite simple. We have no Plan B.


Oh, there was. I am sure he saw orange out the corner of his eye and instinctively passed, but it was the referee. Why the hell were we in out away strip and why was the ref in a similar colour, it was madness.






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