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Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:There is a whole world of difference in "shuttling between divisions" - 2 years outside SL in total, and 12 consecutive years with no Sky money. The right time to judge Rovers youth development will be the 2nd round of franchises, when the kids who are playing academy level right now are filling 1st team slots.
Thats not true it can't be true all the teams with years of SL money say so.






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It would appear that changes in managerial structure = "paying Lip Service" :roll: In that case, my company have been "paying lip service" to making a profit for the last 5 years. I best tell the shareholders!

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Roverswall wrote:So you are now saying we are trying to improve it then?
Surely if we have a team in place for YD why would we change it all the time unless we want it to improve?


No.

There is a world of difference between having to do something and wanting to do it.

If Rovers had any real idea what they were doing at that level they would never have gone within touching distance of Lee Crooks let alone give him a two year deal. On top of that both reserve team and U-18 coaches have chucked it this season.






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Yet, strangely, both reserve & U-18 teams have shown significantly improved results compared to last season.

Progress appears to be measured in staff turnover now, nowt to do with results on the pitch then?

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Gordon Gekko wrote:No.

There is a world of difference between having to do something and wanting to do it.

If Rovers had any real idea what they were doing at that level they would never have gone within touching distance of Lee Crooks let alone give him a two year deal. On top of that both reserve team and U-18 coaches have chucked it this season.
Ah I see so a club making mistakes on recruitment is not wanting to do something?
I hear after looking at this thread hudge is on the lookout for a crystal ball as apparetly that is what you need to improve YD as mistakes arn't allowed :lol:






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Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:Yet, strangely, both reserve & U-18 teams have shown significantly improved results compared to last season.

Progress appears to be measured in staff turnover now, nowt to do with results on the pitch then?


Results are not a measure of successful youth policy. Putting a good team together to play in an age group is the easy part.

Making them into First Team players, now that's something totally different. :wink:






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Roverswall wrote:Ah I see so a club making mistakes on recruitment is not wanting to do something?
I hear after looking at this thread hudge is on the lookout for a crystal ball as apparetly that is what you need to improve YD as mistakes arn't allowed :lol:


If you were turning over as many coaches at first team level you would be rightly wondering wtf was going on.






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Gordon Gekko wrote:If you were turning over as many coaches at first team level you would be rightly wondering wtf was going on.
We did that until we got the right man :wink:
Seems we are going through the same situation at youth level.
Or are you saying we were also 'paying lip service' to getting into SL??






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Gordon Gekko wrote:Results are not a measure of successful youth policy. Putting a good team together to play in an age group is the easy part.

Making them into First Team players, now that's something totally different. :wink:


On that I would agree, however, at this early stage of the development curve, you have to look at other KPI's and the academy league table is certainly more of an indicator than how many backroom staff have left FFS!

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Alphabetti Spaghetti Go! wrote:On that I would agree, however, at this early stage of the development curve, you have to look at other KPI's and the academy league table is certainly more of an indicator than how many backroom staff have left FFS!


The league table bears very little relation into how successful your YD is.






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