I wouldn't Westwoods workrate is phenominal, just what you need at international level, same as O'Loughlin at Wigan, he's got his head down this year and really got stuck in and seems to have cut out a lot of the silly stuff he used to do.

i'd have tony clubb over either of them.............

You would imagine so, I hope we can get a good first half out of the French, they did reasonably well in that first half at Leeds in 07 (i think) and were leading at one point. Last year was a poor do for them at Toulouse.

Anyone who says Tickle should be in the England squad really hasnt seen us play much this season. I've seen every game and hes been poor bar the game against Celtic away.

The England squad looks poor to me but its only against France. If that was the side to play in the 4N at the end of the year, then I would be worried

Will be worth watching to see how the new players perform.

True, but that isn't really how it should work to be honest. We need to select the best possible team.