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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:56 am 
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The 1st half was very tight, a real arm-wrestle for the forwards which I thought you didn't capitalize on since we had Hansen playing prop.

The 2nd half, Salford just didn't control the ball well at all, giving us far too much ball in your half.

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Jaymc9 wrote:Wigans Terry Albert had a great game! oh sorry he was the ref! :lol:

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for me it was a tight first half, with Wigans first trycoming from a very blatant forward paas, and I think we scored the best try of the night, we had a chance early in the second when Ratchford kicked through and after a game of ping pong behind the Wigan line the French prat made a massive error in awarding the drop out when it should have been a Red penalty for Wigan offside.
We should have kicked when we did get a pen this would have put us 2 behind, we were very flat on attack wigan were lying deep and running onto the passes on an angle with dummy runners who were just within the rules.
We were second best on the night but some very poor decisions, we can knock on facing our line wigan can't and pulled up for a forward pass which even the Wigan fans missed rank as some outstanding decs.

Our passing was laboured, but the coaching genius, might have a plan that the CC don't matter so have a practice match and then next week chance the plan and win :lol:






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We put a lot of effort in but it was all very laboured. Wigan deserved to win because they played better and their forwards were better. Our Props wilted. Stapo seemed to be back too early? Cashmere now seems not to offload or we are not backing the possibility up. I thought Jewitt played hard. Our kicking was poor and we just didn't seem to get going.
The Referee IMHO made a lot of errors and was very poor. I think the scoreline flattered Wigan but they deserved to win still.

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richie myler wrote:just did'nt turn up tonight great support though. i honestly think we have got a chance next week because wigan will be concentrating on challenge cup.



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Alex BP' wrote:What are your thoughts on Alker? I've enjoyed seeing him play over his career but seems generally tired. His distribution from acting half back was very poor and there wasn't a hint of his usual running game.

Is he past it?


Alker is suffering from many years of injuries and from spending a career defending. He has a lot of very obvious offensive weaknesses but that's as a result of never being able to develop his skills due to defensive comments. Whilst I think it's great Adamson is putting in a big effort in defence I worry he will end up the same as Alker ... a promising player limited by having to carry a team.

This should be the last year at Salford for Alker for me, he is clearly struggling. The sooner Myler is ready to take over the captaincy the better.

Adamjk wrote:I thought defensively we weren't as bad as the scoreline suggested and the effort was definitely there for a most of the match. We just didn't help ourselves with kicking out on the full twice and giving away a number of penalties.


I'd disagree; I thought we were very poor defensively. We didn't move up anywhere near quick enough and the only time we got even remotely close to their kicker was when Jewitt cleaned out Tomkins. That said there was no lack of effort.

NickyKiss wrote:The same ref that ruled out a nailed on try for McIlorum with the scores at 16-6? Worst call i've literally even seen.


Any decision against Wigan is the worst decision ever ever ever in the history of sport, humanity, space and time blah blah blah ...

Rogues Gallery wrote:Wigan didn't stop Myler, he hid out on the wing for most of the game. All Wigans tries came down the side of the field where Myler was "defending"

The real deal, Sam Tomkins was there for you all to see last night, I'll bet Talau was sick of the site of him.


Rubbish. Myler was quiet because his forwards didn't build any sort of a platform him. Conversely Tomkins had a real platform to work from but he was very predictable. I set my watch by the cut out ball on the right hand in the first half. He's only 18 (or whatever) though so I don't want to sound too critical.

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* I've only seem about half our games this year but I remain underwhelmed by Robbie Paul's contribution on the pitch.
* Mark Henry is not a winger and is being stifled out there.
* Wilshere's effort on Hock for the first try was terrible. He needs to learn to put his body on the line once in a while.
* Both sides are very very average and last night doesn't change the fact that Saints will win the trophy this year. However given that Wigan spend half a million more than us a year we showed well.
* Halibut or whatever his name is was awful. He needs to re-read the definition of a knock-on (four occasions when he called that wrong, three for us one for Wigan), needs to remember to put his hand up to signal the fifth (!) and to make a decision and stick to it (he called a forward pass early on after having waved play-on and then his linesman signalled).






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p1e e8ter wrote:The 1st half was very tight, a real arm-wrestle for the forwards which I thought you didn't capitalize on since we had Hansen playing prop.

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Prestwich Red wrote:Great turnout but where will these fans be next week and also the next home game :x


We'll have two hundred there next week, I reckon. The woodwork will be full again.

AP__ wrote:We took more fans than I expected and we gave our lads great support but I have to say there were too many infiltrators from the round ball game for my liking.


Really? So you're saying that everyone who acts in a way that, in your eyes, is unacceptable, then they're clearly football fans? You're bracketing all football fans in the same category?

Some of us watch both sports, and cricket, and other sports, and can behave ourselves. A lot of people who watch football can behave themselves. A lot of those there last night who, in your eyes, were not behaving themselves, were people who follow Salford above anything else. Do you really think any "football infiltrators" would've known to aim that abuse squarely at Coley? Give over.

RL has always had a "badly behaved" element. However, it's also got a large self-righteous element that will never accept that those elements are actual RL supporters and will always blame it on people who support other sports. Remember the trouble at the Hull derby the other year? "It was all City fans" they cried. Then the pictures came out and they were all wearing FC/KR colours. You see my point?






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The more supporters that come from local football teams; the better it is for us at Salford. As soon as we start to get more through the turnstiles the better the chance we make more revenue and can compete on a more even footing with regards the Salary Cap.

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The ref had no impact on the result of this game. Wigan out played Salford in every department.

Salford's completion rate of 55% says much about the game.

We need to do something about Jon Wilshere's confidence, otherwise we need a fullback.

Myler had a quiet game and spent too much time defending. Ratchford was my MOM, the score would have been so much worse without some of his last ditch tackling. Some of the kicks were poor, but that is the same for eveyone who kicked. Alker had one of his worst games, kicking out on the full.

Really disappointed as we have impreved greatly in recent weeks, feel this is a huge backward step.

The forwards did little, Cashmere is disappointing for a big guy, whether it is the passes he is receiving or what but he needs to be in his stride when he hits the defenders.

Last night we had no runners, no options. Wigan had plenty of dummy runners causing problems, they came on the angle, we reverted to 5 drives.

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