To pick just one example, Thomas Lee. As a teenager he was taking at least as much abuse, to the extent that his name was being booed when the teams were read out. He had enough bottle to continue through it though and the majority of idiots in the crowd now seem to realise that he's not a bad player.



Thorman, on the other hand, is terrible. It's the lack of effort, particularly in defence, that is the worst thing. I can accept a lack of skill/ability in players, but when someone is pulling out of tackling, not putting themselves in the line of fire for the team, that's going too far.



I've never rated him as a player (a couple of decent games over a long career at the top level is not enough) and couldn't believe we signed him after his terrible showings last year in particular, but I've never seen him be so unwilling to put his body on the line. That's not something that has a place in the game and hopefully we've seen the last of him at Hull now.

I do feel sorry for Thorman, he was brought in to do a job that he isnt capable off, its not his fault a terrible decision was made by those in charge of recruitment at Hull, we didnt need a world beater, what we needed was someone with a good long range kicking game and could basically get us round the field, Thorman is so far away from this, he is not a playmaker at all, I have seen him play well in the past but from 6 were he looked threatening running the ball and with the odd short range kick, he is completely lost used as the main pivot, I cant remember there ever being a 7 who plays week in and week out there in the SL era as poor, he really is that bad and while I dont think any personal abuse is warrented, he has been shockingly bad, I think the best for him now is to play at stand off or fullback in the reserves to try and build some confidence and get his career back on track.

because Bradford were so slow that afternoon he looked like Usain Bolt!



he is one of the worst players ever to pull on the black and white, useless at kicking, defence, organizing, slow...

Hull are crap and it is all Thormans fault.



lets find a scapegoat and stick with him such a pity he is not black or jewish.



get rid of Thorman and everything will be rosy in west Hull.



HkR will not be second in the league. they will not be winning the derbies and the Airlie Birds will rise from the ashes like a Phoenix.



Sad Fookers.



get behind your team and players and they might do something.



get rid of the board and you might do something.



get rid of your coach and you mighr do something



Thorman was a good player and still is . He has lost his pace and needs good players around him. Isolated as he is his weaknesses are shown up. None of that is his fault.

Missing eight tackles in one half, all of which were his to make and all of which were very makeable [iis[/i his fault. Solely his fault. And that's without taking into account the terrible kicks, the awful passing, the stupidity of giving away a needless penalty on the last tackle and that unacceptability of failing to put in any effort to deny Webb. And that's all from one game. One HALF!



He's not the only problem with the club (the people who signed him and played/continue to play him are at least as culpable), but his showings this year are a big problem.

You're a bit of an idiot, aren't you?





Not one single Hull fan has blamed our poor season entirely on Thorman. That's nobody, in case you missed it. He did, however, put in the worst 40 minutes that I can recall from any Hull player in the last 20 years. This on top of a far from stellar performance against Wire. Subsequently he is getting some entirely justified criticism, and some OTT stuff.



Such is life.