nick hkr wrote:Position for position we are almost up there with the traditional top 3. People like Briscoe, Fox, Webster, Dobson, Cooke, Vella, Fozzard, Galea, Newton and even Murrell are as equal or almost equal to the likes of say Wellens, Gardner, Gidley (ok he is a class above), Long, Pryce, Graham, Fa'asavalu, Wilkin...etc
I think the one area that we lack is our offloading game and at hooker. Now I am not dissing Fisher or Fitzhenry they are doing a grand job out there however you wouldnt find Saints replacing Cunningham or Roby with one of those two and Leeds wouldnt be taking them on in place of Buderus or Diskin IMO.
Haha steady, don't get too far a head of your selves. Webster as good as Gidley? Cooke as good as Pryce? Fozzard V Graham/Fa'asavalu? Murrell is no where near as good as Wilkin for me.
I agree about Hooker though, think this is your weakest point atm. I'd say that most teams have a better hooker then Fisher.
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
Matty_HullFC wrote: I agree about Hooker though, think this is your weakest point atm. I'd say that most teams have a better hooker then Fisher.
We can get our first choice hooker on the pitch though.
DANNY LOCKWOOD - LEAGUE WEEKLY (18-5-09)
I'M SURE THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FACT THAT THE FRONT RUNNERS FOR THE 2009 MEDIA WHINGING AWARD ARE FROM GATESHEAD AND HULL FC, FORMERLY THE B*ST*RD-TWINS OF ONE OF RUGBY LEAGUE'S LOUSIER IDEAS.
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I stated Gidley was a class above but Webster is still a NZ international and as good as Gidley's feet are its nothing to the power Webster has to barge through defences add to that his speed over 50yrds and he's a weapon most even Saints would relish in their arsenal.
Wasn't Fozzy a part of the 4 peice at Saints over the past few years? He had to be as good or there abouts to even be considered for selection. Add to Fozzy a Mick Vella and your looking at an awsome front row that hasn't even played alongside each for a full game yet!
Cooke on his day can be as creative and wise as any half back in the competition, Pryce has speed and elusive talents to his name but both players are different yet I'd say can be equally deadly in the middle.
Ok you rate Wilkin far ahead of Murrell, you've not seen too much the past year or two of Scotty then, he's like a man possessed and very rarely has an off day. His kicking game is better than Wilkins, his ball playing is as good if not better and with his extra weight he's put on I'd rate him pretty close to where Wilkin is.
The Rover players I mentioned I would suggest around 80% of other SL clubs wouldn't say no to having them as a part of their squads and would be regulars in their first teams.
CHURCHILL wrote:We can get our first choice hooker on the pitch though.
But our second and third choice hookers are still better then your first choice hooker .
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
Joined: Jun 12 2003 Posts: 4022 Location: Kingston Upon Hull (East)
Matty_HullFC wrote:But our second and third choice hookers are still better then your first choice hooker .
Houghton yes Lee no chance. Fisher is under rated by many, ok he's never going to be an amazing hooker and it is something JM needs to address sooner rather than later but Fisher is solid in defence and has a good distribution, his ability to get penalties is as good as any other hooker in the world and his kicking from dummy half is pretty nifty. Not saying he's great just saying we wouldnt be where we are without him so dont write him off as a bad apple on a ripe tree at this moment in time Agar would have Fisher no question.
Matty_HullFC wrote:But our second and third choice hookers are still better then your first choice hooker .
Danny Houghton is a very good young player, that I can't deny, shame Agar can't see it.
DANNY LOCKWOOD - LEAGUE WEEKLY (18-5-09)
I'M SURE THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FACT THAT THE FRONT RUNNERS FOR THE 2009 MEDIA WHINGING AWARD ARE FROM GATESHEAD AND HULL FC, FORMERLY THE B*ST*RD-TWINS OF ONE OF RUGBY LEAGUE'S LOUSIER IDEAS.
nick hkr wrote:I stated Gidley was a class above but Webster is still a NZ international and as good as Gidley's feet are its nothing to the power Webster has to barge through defences add to that his speed over 50yrds and he's a weapon most even Saints would relish in their arsenal.
Wasn't Fozzy a part of the 4 peice at Saints over the past few years? He had to be as good or there abouts to even be considered for selection. Add to Fozzy a Mick Vella and your looking at an awsome front row that hasn't even played alongside each for a full game yet!
Cooke on his day can be as creative and wise as any half back in the competition, Pryce has speed and elusive talents to his name but both players are different yet I'd say can be equally deadly in the middle.
Ok you rate Wilkin far ahead of Murrell, you've not seen too much the past year or two of Scotty then, he's like a man possessed and very rarely has an off day. His kicking game is better than Wilkins, his ball playing is as good if not better and with his extra weight he's put on I'd rate him pretty close to where Wilkin is.
The Rover players I mentioned I would suggest around 80% of other SL clubs wouldn't say no to having them as a part of their squads and would be regulars in their first teams.
First let me state that this is from the TV games and games Hull have had against both teams. I'm not going to claim I know more then you, just going on what I've seen.
Fozzard was but isn't anymore... Doesn't that tell you something, if he was as good as them they would have kept him because Hargreaves isn't exactly immense is he?
On his day yes but Pryce is a much better player then Cooke based on the fact he has done it week in week out whereas Cooke has done it very rarely.
I don't agree at all especially about the ball in hand bit. Murrell is very average from what I've seen.
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
CHURCHILL wrote:Danny Houghton is a very good young player, that I can't deny, shame Agar can't see it.
The fact he seems to be playing regulary now maybe shows light at the end of the tunnel.
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
nick hkr wrote:Houghton yes Lee no chance. Fisher is under rated by many, ok he's never going to be an amazing hooker and it is something JM needs to address sooner rather than later but Fisher is solid in defence and has a good distribution, his ability to get penalties is as good as any other hooker in the world and his kicking from dummy half is pretty nifty. Not saying he's great just saying we wouldnt be where we are without him so dont write him off as a bad apple on a ripe tree at this moment in time Agar would have Fisher no question.
I don't think Agar would at all. I think Lee has played really well at hooker and Fisher for me wouldn't get into many other teams in the Super League as the first choice 9.
HULL FC and LEEDSUNITED fan
Wellsy13 wrote:To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really!
SPOT ON!
A Hull KR fan about Billy Slater:
blakeysrobin wrote:Three times as much as Briscoe, yet three times poorer as a fullback
Matty_HullFC wrote:The fact he seems to be playing regulary now maybe shows light at the end of the tunnel.
The end of the tunnel is at the end of the season. Welcome Danny, thanks for making the short trip across the city.
DANNY LOCKWOOD - LEAGUE WEEKLY (18-5-09)
I'M SURE THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FACT THAT THE FRONT RUNNERS FOR THE 2009 MEDIA WHINGING AWARD ARE FROM GATESHEAD AND HULL FC, FORMERLY THE B*ST*RD-TWINS OF ONE OF RUGBY LEAGUE'S LOUSIER IDEAS.
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