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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:45 pm 
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How does not wanting cameras in the dressing room make him a small minded idiot?

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:04 pm 
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Fully wrote:Why do people always assume that Canyoubelieveit is Chris Irvine?


If he's not then Chris Irvine needs to take out a restraining order.

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The_Wolfman wrote:Yet another saints player in a "world class" whinge storm.

The thing that gets me is that saints players are acting like the overpaid huge egotistical football players who think they are bigger than the game and better than us mere mortals.

I really feel for the future of community based sport if this attitude infects the rest of the game.


How does having an opinion, that differs from yours, make Graham an egotistical football player? :S






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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 2:06 pm 
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Fully wrote:Chris Irvine has his own account on here with the username "Chrisirvine", but I suppose it is plausible for him to have more than one account.


Does he not have students to dothis for him?

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Code13 wrote:The RFU can relax, with high profile players like that in RL, they need do nothing to see us wither.


Exactly. If he keeps behaving like this, he'll slowly become an embarrassment to those of us in who grew up in the East Hull community from whence he sprung. Hundreds of people - like my uncle who coached him and his mates as a kid - put in their time and energy for free to help get kids involved in our great game, and then the people who get paid a pretty decent wage for doing something the rest of us would love to have done decide to use their limited oxygen of publicity denigating our great game. What a kick in the teeth.

Don't give me all that freedom of speech balls either - the free market is like war, you may argue amongst yourselves behind closed doors about what is the best strategy, but when you confront the outside world you have a duty to your comrades to present a united front. If a member of my organisation undermined our direction like that, I'd fire them. You're either inside the tent p*ssing out, or outside the tent p*ssing in. Time to make up your mind Jon.

Too long in St Helens I think - he must have caught the small town hero disease from Cunningham... you know, the one that eventually leads to you not even being bothered to play for your country when asked, no doubt because they won't play their games at the end of your street.

So Jon, wake up and smell the coffee. People are starting to wish you never sprung from our midst seeing as that's your attitude.






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The_Wolfman wrote:Yet another saints player in a "world class" whinge storm.

The thing that gets me is that saints players are acting like the overpaid huge egotistical football players who think they are bigger than the game and better than us mere mortals.

I really feel for the future of community based sport if this attitude infects the rest of the game.


Yup - there's something rotten in the first team culture at that club. What do they do all day at training, sit around slagging off the supporters for making them get off their backsides once a week? Sickening.






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As has been said there was nothing wrong with Graham voicing his concerns and dislike for the event, but they can't complain if people don't like their views or the way they air them.

Views are always going to be split on such different events as MM but its not an event where any opinion is going to be right or wrong its all personal preferences and he can't complain about those who don't agree with his view or it makes him seem like a spoilt child

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people giving him poop and saying he's undermining the hard work put in. he's expressing an opinion as JG did when asked a question. it's hardly a kick in the teeth to those putting work in at the grass roots. i've heard plenty of fans moan about MM, all these two are doing are putting accross the players opinion of it, something we as fans are not in a position to do. some players like it, i believe Jon Wells wrote that in his colum (the best RL player writing in the press too) and some dont like JG, exactly like the fans. i love MM but plenty dont.

and if were talking about high profile players, or in this case ex player, undermining plenty of people's hardwork then lets talk about Gary "i dont want RL anywhere other than the M62 corridor" Schofield. His constant rants about RL in london are a disgrace and competely disregard the amount of hardwork that volunteers the length and breadth of this country do spreading the greatest game. i think thats far more harmful than a player saying he prefers having the same preperation every week.

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Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:Yup - there's something rotten in the first team culture at that club. What do they do all day at training, sit around slagging off the supporters for making them get off their backsides once a week? Sickening.


I don,t think you could be any further from the truth, these players at "that club" do lots of charity, community and school function to promote rugby league.
They train in a professional manner and when that professional entity is taken away with a RFL gimmick, I think they have a right to have an opinion.

"That club" has given high entertainment value for the past 13 years and put their bodies on the line week in week out."That club" has always has always had emphasie on quality thant quantity. Until we address the issue we can forget any international status.

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Judder Man wrote:I don,t think you could be any further from the truth, these players at "that club" do lots of charity, community and school function to promote rugby league.
They train in a professional manner and when that professional entity is taken away with a RFL gimmick, I think they have a right to have an opinion.

"That club" has given high entertainment value for the past 13 years and put their bodies on the line week in week out."That club" has always has always had emphasie on quality thant quantity. Until we address the issue we can forget any international status.


I'm sure the club does a hell of a lot of valuable work in the community, and the players do within that, and there's no doubt they've set standards for the sport to follow on the field. But to say that being asked to play a game in a non-standard location ONCE A YEAR somehow takes away from all of their work to build professional standards is surely just nonsense? They're not being asked to go out on the road all the time like the Harlem-bloomin-globetrotters, just gracefully make a few compromises ONCE A YEAR in order to help develop our game beyond its current boundaries.

I'm sorry, but the amount of bleating about this "problem" is totally disproportionate to any genuine impact on them as individuals and a club. Add into all this the fact that our sport generally struggles for publicity at the best of times, so all stakeholders should be professional enough to choose when, where and how to air any grievances in the wider interests of our game, and you get close to seeing why things like this really wind me and many others up.






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