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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:36 am 
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manxviking wrote:I was a lee fan but the lad needs his bottom kicking.

As for apathy - I used words watching last night that wouldn't be in my sermons :lol:

We looked great going forwards at time and looked far more skilful than Leigh (who look poor to say the least). I just don't understand how we could make so many dumb errors and take wrong options - like kicking into the corner when we have a 4 to 1 overlap!!!!!!!AAAAARRRRGGGGHH

Sorry - I had one of me moments.

Frustrating, but a damn sight more green shoots than the economy is showing!


:lol: Still graceful in defeat I see, but by implication you have at least got your assessment of Widnes' abilities right






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DemonUK wrote::lol: Still graceful in defeat I see, but by implication you have at least got your assessment of Widnes' abilities right
Touchy.

You aren't really convinced Leigh have a good teaam at the moment are you? It was a cracking game to watch but the overall quality is not going to have any other side in this division quaking in their boots.

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It wasn't vey good was it, great start yet dicipline let us down big time AGAIN!

And i'm sorry but that is CULLEN's fault. He's the coach so should be teaching them better discipline!

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I'm sorry but that was your game to lose last night. It was quite a spectacular self-destruct. Too much dropped ball and pressure you put on yourselves really. You'll still finish above Leigh though.

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The Dors wrote:I'm sorry but that was your game to lose last night. It was quite a spectacular self-destruct. Too much dropped ball and pressure you put on yourselves really. You'll still finish above Leigh though.
Hope you are right Dors, but your analysis is spot on. I think bug Barrie used the expression brain explosion. Brain :shock:

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Widnes threw the game away after being 0-10 up and having the momentum. Poor discipline (Dropped Ball & silly penalties) meant you gave Leigh possession and chances to get back in. Poor defending allowed Leigh to capitalize on these chances. Widnes lack Team Spirit and charactor and have no leader to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Smith and Webster were good in the first 30-then disappeared.

Passing the ball well from one side of the pitch to the other is good but often pointless if you are not making good yards- that was Widnes often yesterday. Cullen is not the man for you. You may not have a couple of decent props but you still should have a team playing better than they are!

Have Widnes improved under Cullen? NO! Do Widnes play as a team? NO! Do Widnes play on their strengths? NO! Does there look like much team Spirit at Widnes and players playing for each other? NO Most of the reasons why NO is there is down to Cullen whether you like it or not. Signing a couple of players is not the anser to your problems. You need a coach who will get your players playing as one and who will give 100%. You need a Coach who will get your players cutting out the basics they are doing wrong and get them playing using a simple gameplan that is effective. The games on SKY I have seen Widnes do not seem to have much of a game plan as your backs seem to do more drives than your forwards!! Best of luck in sorting your problems out but feel under Cullen you will struggle.

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CULLEN OUT PLEASE !!!!

We can all say that he has not got the players to build a good team but HE HAS !!!

Its not working , he`s not doing a good job thanks but no thanks.

By all means I`m not on a I hate Cullen thing its just he is full of shat and its not working out.

Chalk ( Cullen ) Cheese ( Widnes Vikings )

Give stanky another chance he did a great job and is Widnes through and through .






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buryhim11 wrote:CULLEN OUT PLEASE !!!!

We can all say that he has not got the players to build a good team but HE HAS !!!

Its not working , he`s not doing a good job thanks but no thanks.

By all means I`m not on a I hate Cullen thing its just he is full of shat and its not working out.

Chalk ( Cullen ) Cheese ( Widnes Vikings )

Give stanky another chance he did a great job and is Widnes through and through .


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leyther forever wrote:CULLEN TO STAY PLEASE :wink:


Point proven with this one coming from a dirty leyther :lol:






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The Lucky Black Cat wrote:Widnes threw the game away after being 0-10 up and having the momentum. Poor discipline (Dropped Ball & silly penalties) meant you gave Leigh possession and chances to get back in. Poor defending allowed Leigh to capitalize on these chances. Widnes lack Team Spirit and charactor and have no leader to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Smith and Webster were good in the first 30-then disappeared.

Passing the ball well from one side of the pitch to the other is good but often pointless if you are not making good yards- that was Widnes often yesterday. Cullen is not the man for you. You may not have a couple of decent props but you still should have a team playing better than they are!

Have Widnes improved under Cullen? NO! Do Widnes play as a team? NO! Do Widnes play on their strengths? NO! Does there look like much team Spirit at Widnes and players playing for each other? NO Most of the reasons why NO is there is down to Cullen whether you like it or not. Signing a couple of players is not the anser to your problems. You need a coach who will get your players playing as one and who will give 100%. You need a Coach who will get your players cutting out the basics they are doing wrong and get them playing using a simple gameplan that is effective. The games on SKY I have seen Widnes do not seem to have much of a game plan as your backs seem to do more drives than your forwards!! Best of luck in sorting your problems out but feel under Cullen you will struggle.


What exactly our are strengths that we should be playing to? And as for the reasons being all down to Cullen why did they exist before he arrived?

The game at Barrow away showed that Stanny would have faced exactly these same problems?

Having watched the team all season and not just the televised games I will say that I think we have improved in some areas. We now look like we can get over the whitewash during a game.

Webster and Varkulis are two players whose game is improving week on week.
We are now throwing the ball around quite nicely at times and quite often like the first try last night it does have a purpose.
We were very broken and we are slowly being fixed...
If you ask the players then Cullen is well liked and a change of the training schedule is being put in place that will see us meet up as a squad for more than twice a week. (something put in place by McCormack)
Our injuries have hit us hard this year.. Fletcher is a big miss and Morrison is a massive miss. both impact players that have a great say in our defence too. Gaskell's injury is a big loss to us too and other players are trying desperately to get their match fitness.
There is unfortunately a lot of work to be done but we are getting better and a few signings will make us more competitive again.






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