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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:34 pm 
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NickyKiss wrote:If he's playing better then O'Loughlin he truely must be on fire because Lockers is smoking at the minute and has been very very good all year.

Agreed, from what I have seen of O'loughlin he is playing well this year.






dally messenger wrote:was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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gutterfax wrote:Agreed, from what I have seen of O'loughlin he is playing well this year.


Not having a go at Purdham by the way who i think is a very good player but O'Loughlin deserves credit for the way he's going this year.

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gutterfax wrote:Purdham is currently in better form that Westerman. He is 29 years old and still has a couple of Good years left in him.
Now, if it is the intention to not compete at the 4 nations this year, but to build a squad with the next WC in mind, then yes, by all means pick younger prospects, but Purdham has never let down any international team he has played in, is the form player of the two, has missed 1 kick at goal all season (handy talent) and is ahead of Westerman in the stats department.
Oh, by the way, I agree that most stats mean nothing when comparing players at clubs that are at opposite ends of the table, but when they are in teams that are pretty even (like level on points) they do act as a pointer to form.


Purdham is in better form - that can't be nothing at all to do with the fact he's having to cover Faumuina's constant mistakes and missed a few weeks after been taken out off the ball could it?

So what if he's missed one kick at goal all season, Orr has taken most of Quins kicks :lol: and Sinfield is a better loose forward & kicker then Purdham.

You can't really compare stats between 2 players at different clubs even if they're close in the league either - different teams have players running different lines & playing different roles, at Cas Westerman is a ball handling wide runner most of the time and acts like a cross between a centre & stand off the way he plays.

I'd have: Westerman, Sinfield, O'Loughlin & Wild in front of Purdham - not necessarily in that order but they're all better players imo.

Now I'll wait for the typical Quins fan response of: Just because he plays for Quins or You're biased towards your own club :roll:

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Gaslight wrote:Purdham is in better form - that can't be nothing at all to do with the fact he's having to cover Faumuina's constant mistakes and missed a few weeks after been taken out off the ball could it?

So what if he's missed one kick at goal all season, Orr has taken most of Quins kicks :lol: and Sinfield is a better loose forward & kicker then Purdham.

You can't really compare stats between 2 players at different clubs even if they're close in the league either - different teams have players running different lines & playing different roles, at Cas Westerman is a ball handling wide runner most of the time and acts like a cross between a centre & stand off the way he plays.

I'd have: Westerman, Sinfield, O'Loughlin & Wild in front of Purdham - not necessarily in that order but they're all better players imo.

Now I'll wait for the typical Quins fan response of: Just because he plays for Quins or You're biased towards your own club :roll:

You won't get the London players don't get picked b0ll0x from me chum...what you will get is:
Westerman has played more games, yet is behind in every stat apart from missed tackles and errors.
As for kicks, Orr Kicks as well as purdham, but 21 from 22 attempts is pretty good.
Westerman got taken out.....not nice, but it happens. But if you are saying that is why he is behind purdham in the stats you are off your rocker.
Purdham offer a more complete all round game and that is why he is "currently" better than westerman. In a couple of years, we will see if westerman is the real deal, but on form, purdham is currently the better player IMO.






dally messenger wrote:was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have


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gutterfax wrote:You won't get the London players don't get picked b0ll0x from me chum...what you will get is:
Westerman has played more games, yet is behind in every stat apart from missed tackles and errors.
As for kicks, Orr Kicks as well as purdham, but 21 from 22 attempts is pretty good.
Westerman got taken out.....not nice, but it happens. But if you are saying that is why he is behind purdham in the stats you are off your rocker.
Purdham offer a more complete all round game and that is why he is "currently" better than westerman. In a couple of years, we will see if westerman is the real deal, but on form, purdham is currently the better player IMO.


So how about Sinfield, O'Loughlin and Wild?

And here's a couple I'm surprised KR fans haven't appeared & mentioned: Cook & Murrell, both playing well at the minute, worth a shot?

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RB wrote:Umm.. you realise he only played about half of last season don't you?


I do. He's well on his way to bettering his (impressive) 2007 counts.

NickyKiss wrote:Easily the best English Loose forward.


That's an incredibly depressing thought.
He's okay when he keeps his head down and sticks to tackling and driving the ball up. For some reason he seems to think he's a creative player, despite the evidence.






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SBR wrote:
That's an incredibly depressing thought.
He's okay when he keeps his head down and sticks to tackling and driving the ball up. For some reason he seems to think he's a creative player, despite the evidence.


The evidence this year suggests he's the most creative forward in superleague with 6 assists.

Ben Galea, Wilkin and Sinfield the next 3 forwards on the list with 4.

Thats the actual evidence.

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NickyKiss wrote:The evidence this year suggests he's the most creative forward in superleague with 6 assists.

Ben Galea, Wilkin and Sinfield the next 3 forwards on the list with 4.

Thats the actual evidence.


Its not though is it. The stats on the SL sight are gash.






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Gaslight wrote:So how about Sinfield, O'Loughlin and Wild?

And here's a couple I'm surprised KR fans haven't appeared & mentioned: Cook & Murrell, both playing well at the minute, worth a shot?


We're mourning the exclusion of Shaun Briscoe and Peter Fox. If they can't get in Cooke and Murrell don't have a snowflakes.

I have feeling that the blend of youth will mean retaining a few grizzled veterens and skipping a generation. Anybody in their prime, who didn't make the World Cup, just isn't good enough. Selecting them now would be like admitting mistakes had been made. :)

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Could you please change m wrote:Its not though is it. The stats on the SL sight are gash.


Agree with that actually but only because if anything he'd have more.

A Leeds fan was pointing out on the Saints board how bad the assists awards were and i totally agreed.

JJB didn't get one for his break and pass to send Webb in at MM :shock:

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