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Big Graeme wrote:And it is that easy?
You mentioned ' easy ' not me
But people cannot keep stating that constantly moving has prevented the London club from laying down roots and building a fan base if they keep on doing it
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Starbug wrote:You mentioned ' easy ' not me
But people cannot keep stating that constantly moving has prevented the London club from laying down roots and building a fan base if they keep on doing it
I think they call this a paradox
They must move to survive, but must not move if they want a fan base
Think there's roughly 1.5 miles from Hilton Park to the LSV, so we're close enough to the 2 mile boundary for it to explain the lack of an increase in crowds
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wire-quin wrote:What is the accepted or official demarcation line for SL attendance below which everything else is unacceptable.
Or is this some imaginary figure you have in your mind.
Take a look at what really matters -the league table and maybe reconsider your criteria for SL status.
Lets get rid of Warrington because they are bottom of the fair play league. Surely we only want teams that abide by the rules. They are NL standard in behavioral terms.
Stick with your village fete mentality. Anything more than that will blow your brain
I'll ignore the attempted insult
We didn't change the criteria for SL status , it used to be the League table , it no longer is
As regards my demarcation line for acceptable SL attendance levels , that also is not my idea but once again our friends up at Red Hall
As I stated on the post you highlighted , if you keep moving you will never build support , no club would no matter where they are
Just for the record anything under 5,000 paying home spectators is poor in my opinion , what do you think is a reasonable fan base to expect a top grade RL club to attract after 20 odd years ?
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Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
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Starbug wrote: what do you think is a reasonable fan base to expect a top grade RL club to attract after 20 odd years ?
If we had stayed at the one ground for that 20 year period I would expect a minimum of 5-7k, but we didn't and we haven't.
If however we are allowed to stay at the Stoop, and if we can continue to survive as any club has to, and if we continue to build the roots of an "alien" sport into the community and make a community around us, then I would consider it a failure if we did not achieve >5k gates within the next 6 seasons.
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Starbug wrote:You mentioned ' easy ' not me
But people cannot keep stating that constantly moving has prevented the London club from laying down roots and building a fan base if they keep on doing it
You think the club has wanted to move everytime? In the past we've been at the mercy of soccer clubs, they'd have us for a couple of years but as soon as things got a bit sticky for them we'd get the elbow, now the club has a stable base we get whinged at for that.
Homer wrote:If we had stayed at the one ground for that 20 year period I would expect a minimum of 5-7k, but we didn't and we haven't.
If however we are allowed to stay at the Stoop, and if we can continue to survive as any club has to, and if we continue to build the roots of an "alien" sport into the community and make a community around us, then I would consider it a failure if we did not achieve >5k gates within the next 6 seasons.
Fair points, but that's not enough growth. You were getting better gates last year - maybe on the back of freebies - but still better gates.
Next year you need to be averaging over 4k and gaining another k in attendence the following year. You've had 4 years as the quinz now, time to get a better crowd.
That's not to say that it is your fault, the fans' fault or that your board is not looking into it (I know they are).
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God I've missed this.......... The only club that can have any issue with London in Superleague is Keighley Cougars, who won the old 2nd division, but were bumped in favour of us. The rest of the clubs whose fans constantly whine about our crowds obviously have no other criteria to try to batter us with. We are no longer a team full of 'stralians, we have one of the best youth/development set ups in the country, are sitting 5th, have 4 GB/England internationals on our books including 2 cockneys, as well as one of the stand out props from the world cup, are not in dire financial straights and have never been relegated.
Widnes fans can have a pop at Catalans because they got Bumped down, but the rest of Rugby League can have no complaints.
Lastly...because someone will eventually post it......we folded and were reinstated by a vote of the superleague chairmen without breaking any competition rules....Oh....we also scored enough points to achieve a licence as well.
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