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Starbug wrote:Nothing personal at all , when the RFL starts treating all it's member clubs equaly and Mr Lewis refrains from making up fairy stories about the Leigh club on live TV I will stop pointing out these anomolies
If you dont like it tough
I fully expect you now to lock this thread because of this post , as you have done in the past when things dont suit your agenda
What point are you trying to make? That Leigh should be awarded a licence on the basis that there are some decent junior clubs in the area (I say decent, because as already pointed out the majority of talented kids will be playing academy or open age rugby by 18)?
King Street Cat wrote:Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.
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If anyone wants to see for themselves why rugby league is in dire straights only need go watch u9's rugby or mini mod i think it is called.
No running from dummy half, no kicking,if you intercept you have to stop and play the ball. I am sure the skills are being taught in training but they aren't allowed to be implemented in a game.
When i were a lad , we played on a full size pitch with a thirteen per side ( they now play nine per side at u9's ) and under the rules of the day for all age groups. In my opinion all levels should be playing under superleague rules.
I would have to say again imo that the onset of summer rugby has only improved things for fans that go watch in a bit of warmth, the skill levels have dropped in the half back position as the speed of the game has increased. It is no coincidence that the last time we ( GB ) were anywhere near competitive we played in the winter.
The reason could be is that our best players no longer go to Australia in the off season.
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Wes Hooligan wrote:What point are you trying to make? That Leigh should be awarded a licence on the basis that there are some decent junior clubs in the area (I say decent, because as already pointed out the majority of talented kids will be playing academy or open age rugby by 18)?
Not really but investment without SL funding is at best very difficult, even clubs with massive Sky cash over the years dont produce. What I would suggest is that with 3 years SL funding it is far easier to establish a conveyor of talent if that talent is already available and playing the sport.
What Lewis said was that of a clueless man under scrutiny by the media, and as Starbug says I will also take great pleasure in reminding folk of the joke that was franchising at evry possible opportunity.
PS Well done Leigh clubs in producing 2 high quality under 18 teams that contested the national knock out final.
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Starbug wrote:Today Leigh East and Leigh Miners u 18 s played out the final of the Barla youth cup at the Willows , Salford
34 of Leighs finest young men put on an exciting tension filled display of RL
A scoreline of 2 - 0 to East at H/T and then an 80 minutes score of 8 - 8 resulted in 20 minutes of extra time
2 Further scores put East in the driving seat until Miners came back to score with 2 minutes left to set up a last chance to even things up
East kept the Miners out to record an 18 - 12 win
So yes mr Lewis Leigh Centurions youth development might be questioned but what you cannot dispute is that the town is and always will be a RL heartland and hotbed of talent
Not a good few weeks for Miners after losing the grand final at U-18 level to the Crusaders U-18's a few weeks back.
By the way does the grand final win make South Wales a hotbed of talent?
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suedehead. wrote:If anyone wants to see for themselves why rugby league is in dire straights only need go watch u9's rugby or mini mod i think it is called.
No running from dummy half, no kicking,if you intercept you have to stop and play the ball. I am sure the skills are being taught in training but they aren't allowed to be implemented in a game.
When i were a lad , we played on a full size pitch with a thirteen per side ( they now play nine per side at u9's ) and under the rules of the day for all age groups. In my opinion all levels should be playing under superleague rules.
Mini and mod games should be about kids enjoying themselves, getting their hands on the ball and having fun with it while learning the basics. Allow dummy half running and all that will happen is coaches telling the biggest kid in the team to get to dummy half and run with it every time.
Playing junior games on full size pitches to full size rules is what's killing junior development in football - too much focus on tactics and structure, and not enough on developing technique.
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suedehead. wrote:If anyone wants to see for themselves why rugby league is in dire straights only need go watch u9's rugby or mini mod i think it is called.
No running from dummy half, no kicking,if you intercept you have to stop and play the ball. I am sure the skills are being taught in training but they aren't allowed to be implemented in a game.
When i were a lad :lol: , we played on a full size pitch with a thirteen per side ( they now play nine per side at u9's ) and under the rules of the day for all age groups. In my opinion all levels should be playing under superleague rules.
I would have to say again imo that the onset of summer rugby has only improved things for fans that go watch in a bit of warmth, the skill levels have dropped in the half back position as the speed of the game has increased. It is no coincidence that the last time we ( GB ) were anywhere near competitive we played in the winter.
The reason could be is that our best players no longer go to Australia in the off season.
We almost certainly copied this from Australia. Playing full size pitches and full rules at U11s and below is a sure way to failure.
suedehead. wrote:If anyone wants to see for themselves why rugby league is in dire straights only need go watch u9's rugby or mini mod i think it is called.
No running from dummy half, no kicking,if you intercept you have to stop and play the ball. I am sure the skills are being taught in training but they aren't allowed to be implemented in a game.
When i were a lad :lol: , we played on a full size pitch with a thirteen per side ( they now play nine per side at u9's ) and under the rules of the day for all age groups. In my opinion all levels should be playing under superleague rules.
I would have to say again imo that the onset of summer rugby has only improved things for fans that go watch in a bit of warmth, the skill levels have dropped in the half back position as the speed of the game has increased. It is no coincidence that the last time we ( GB ) were anywhere near competitive we played in the winter.
The reason could be is that our best players no longer go to Australia in the off season.
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crucrucrusaders wrote:Not a good few weeks for Miners after losing the grand final at U-18 level to the Crusaders U-18's a few weeks back.
By the way does the grand final win make South Wales a hotbed of talent?
Without a doubt , but not a heartland , yet
South Wales has always had many players skillful enough to play RL at the highest level
The problem has always been are there enough people willing to pay to watch them
That problem still remains
My ' extra ' comments were in direct reference to Mr lewis stating on TV that Celtic had a better youth policy than Leigh Centurions when asked the question on BBC north west
At the moment I find his statement of fact to be ridiculous , hence my reference to it at the start of this thread
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suedehead. wrote:If anyone wants to see for themselves why rugby league is in dire straights only need go watch u9's rugby or mini mod i think it is called.
No running from dummy half, no kicking,if you intercept you have to stop and play the ball. I am sure the skills are being taught in training but they aren't allowed to be implemented in a game.
When i were a lad :lol: , we played on a full size pitch with a thirteen per side ( they now play nine per side at u9's ) and under the rules of the day for all age groups. In my opinion all levels should be playing under superleague rules.
I would have to say again imo that the onset of summer rugby has only improved things for fans that go watch in a bit of warmth, the skill levels have dropped in the half back position as the speed of the game has increased. It is no coincidence that the last time we ( GB ) were anywhere near competitive we played in the winter.
The reason could be is that our best players no longer go to Australia in the off season.
And in those days, the wisdom was that no one played rugby before age 11 because it was too complex...so no-one did.
IMHO Mini and Mod are the way forward. Build the kids skills, give them a chance to get their hands on the ball and run, pass or tackle and encourage coaches to avoid "give it the big/strong/fast kid" rugby in favour of a full contribution from all players.
Six year olds can't be expected to play a complex game...but 11 year olds are capable of a lot more. The rules should and do recognise this.
I've watched a lot of junior rugby over the last 15 years and most of the kids I've seen play are not lost to the game. They are still youth players, academy players, a few super league players, open age players and practically all are fans of the sport. (paradoxically the "academy rejects"
tend to be those who leave the game completely)
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