Agreed mate. The problem must lie with the playing staff. Too many of them clearly don't want to be at the club.

As a side note it's took us 117 minutes of football to register a score!

Thought it was 3920?

Ah right. Think i may have suffered a numberwang.

I have no idea what the problem is... are they on too cushy a number?? are they feeling the weight of expectation of playing for this club??.. All I know is that out there tonight something was drastically wrong and it was also evident at Sheffield.
They don't look like a team... not one single player showed any real fight tonight... when the chips were down and you were looking for someone, anyone to just get in the midst of them and shout, or try to gee them up or something they all just stood around like grazing cattle... amazingly the better players were again Flynn and Ostick two of the youngsters...

What the hell is happening?

Wasnt gannon playing? That sounds like a perfect scenario for him to unleash a massive haymaker - albeit on his own player coach, but still, the sentiment remains

Gannon was playing and he was trying to lure someone into a set to. That was after he was dumped on his head though.

He was our best player tonight. Pity a few more didn't show the same spirit.

Tonight widnes were extremely poor completly lacking ideas especially around the oppositions 20 mtr mark.Webster was non existance and mark smith did his fair share of tacking as normal but with ball in hand was very poor mainly due to the lack of support players .Young Ostic tried hard but in all honestly the pack looks very light and they need some aggression going forward .Whitehaven will be a another test for them forwards and if they dont improve they will get turned over again.Widnes with the players they have are more than capable of winning but they need to play with more aggression and team spirit.

That wouldn't have been often enough to come to any sort of conclusion.

we did not even get a bonus point at home, which shows how badly we played and we all knew this was going to happen if you think about recent results and the way we have played. there needs to be big changes in the playing personnel.

i am not sure about cullen we seem to have gone worse and in our coaching staff there are no coaches who used to be backs when they played, saying that look how many ex forwards are on the coaching staff and we still have problems in the forwards.

how come shane grady did not play, he usually gives 100%

bannister has to start next week instead of doran.

this is me on 70 mins

I'm not sure you can blame Cullen. You can't coach motivation, team spirit and pride in the shirt. You've either got it or you haven't. This bunch of individuals is losing it by the bucket load week on week.