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1. Paul Wellens 2. Ade Gardner
3. Matt Gidley
5. Francis Meli
6. Leon Pryce
7. Sean Long
8. Jason Cayless
9. Keiron Cunningham 10. James Graham 11. Lee Gilmour
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Chris Flannery
14. James Roby 15. Bryn Hargreaves
16. Tony Puletua
17. Paul Clough 18. Kyle Eastmond 19. Chris Dean 20. Gareth Frodsham 21. Gary Wheeler 22. Shaun Magennis 23. Maurie Fa'asavalu
24. Andrew Dixon 25. Jamie Foster 26. Andrew Yates 27. Jamie Ellis 28. Matty Ashurst 29. Tom Armstrong 30. Jonny Lomax 31. Jacob Emmitt
Add to that Gardner, Wilkin, Hargreaves and Fa'asavalu were young players with no experience of top level rugby before joining the S and have been developed into established first team players within international honours.
St_Maca wrote:Add to that Gardner, Wilkin, Hargreaves and Fa'asavalu were young players with no experience of top level rugby before joining the S and have been developed into established first team players within international honours.
That wouldn't be the same Bryn Hargreaves with no top level Rugby experience that had already played 33 Superleague games for Wigan would it?
Or is there another one.
So your best starting 17 would only include 5 players from inside the club, and two of those are Wellens and Cunningham, who have been there for over 10 years.
So much for talent development since Super duper league eh.
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Rogues Gallery wrote:That wouldn't be the same Bryn Hargreaves with no top level Rugby experience that had already played 33 Superleague games for Wigan would it?
Or is there another one.
So your best starting 17 would only include 5 players from inside the club, and two of those are Wellens and Cunningham, who have been there for over 10 years.
So much for talent development since Super duper league eh.
beat me to it!
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Rogues Gallery wrote:That wouldn't be the same Bryn Hargreaves with no top level Rugby experience that had already played 33 Superleague games for Wigan would it?
Or is there another one.
So your best starting 17 would only include 5 players from inside the club, and two of those are Wellens and Cunningham, who have been there for over 10 years.
So much for talent development since Super duper league eh.
I find it funny that Wigan fans dispute Saints' youth system when it has produced the last 2 man of steel winners whilst their world beating prospects have have them languishing out of the play-offs.
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FearTheVee wrote:I find it funny that Wigan fans dispute Saints' youth system when it has produced the last 2 man of steel winners whilst their world beating prospects have have them languishing out of the play-offs.
and roby was such a deserving winner
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Rogues Gallery wrote:That wouldn't be the same Bryn Hargreaves with no top level Rugby experience that had already played 33 Superleague games for Wigan would it?
I don't want to joint this childish arguement you are having.
I just wanted you all to know how sad (and ironic in a way) that a really intelligent well thought out document like this. Which stated the need as a sport for us to unite and create a better international competition to improve the game and help secure its very future. Has resulted in a petty squabble between rival clubs fans.
Regardless of how many young British players and how few second rate kiwis/aussies your team have it just is not good enough. It does not matter how many young players you can count in your team, ever club needs to do better.
There is no point in finger pointing. As a country all 12 english full time clubs need to do more to provide for the national team and put short term individual success to the side.
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