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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:08 am 
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On the subject of goal kicks:

When the SKY Sports cameras are in attendance can't the Ref go to the screen :?:

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Am I the only person who has noticed that wilshere has started to float his goal kicks again? when he kicks well he seems to kick the ball with greater conviction and with more force.
We need to invest as we a couple of years ago in some private kicking coaching from the guy from Sale, Wilshere and anyone else on the playing staff who are likely to be called on to kick should be given a couple of days coaching to sharpen up, we saw yesterday how potentially vital kicks can be.






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number 6 wrote:sorry have to disagree, the penalty attempt didn't go over, it drifted inches wide of the upright, we had the perfect view standing at the top of the terrace behind the opposite end

btw, at least you didn't lose to a forward pass now :wink: :lol:



It went in inches wide from over 120 yards away? :lol:






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having watched the game again on sky i thought we didn't play too bad! like some people have said the silly errors we made probably cost us the game! Also i know wilshere had a bit of a mare but i hope mcrae doesn't now put fitzy at full back because other than yesterday's game, wilshere has been great at full back! It still concerns me that we seem a total different team when cashmere and stapo leave the field! It would be good to see how many points we score/concede when they are both on/off the pitch?

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I thought we played well ! and the performance and commitment can't be faulted. Too many handling errors my only quarm. Wilshere had a bad day but still the first choice FB and goal kicker by a mile and a great player for us to have week in week out. The PERFORMANCE was what mattered.






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we were stood right under posts i can say for certain that wilsheres kick went over!! which wudda made it 16-16. but anyway im sure we'll come good again!






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I thought the result was just about right and that Hull were marginally the better side over the 80 minutes. Having said that, our guys really gave it a go and I'm pleased they got some decent applause from us at the end. A few weeks ago we were playing like clueless amateurs. Now we look like a Super League team.

I've got no complaints about the ref and let's not forget that we got the benefit of the doubt on two try decisions from the video ref. The officials were not the reason we lost. We lost because of silly penalties and carelessness when we had the ball in our hands.

I hope John Wilshire shrugs off a night to forget and has a stormer next week. This guy's won a lot more games for us than he's lost and if I were the coach I'd have told him after the match that his is the first name on the team sheet for Edinburgh.

There were a lot of things to enthuse about from our point of view. Not the least of these were standout performances from some great young kids who qualify for England. I think we sometimes forget just how young players like Myler, Ratchford, Adamson, Turner and Sidlow are. Add to this two tries for Darrell Goulding on his debut.

In Cashmere we've got a big powerful guy who's capable of gaining ground and offloading superbly. Stapo has obviously cottoned on to this and that combination for the Myler try was a joy to watch.

Lastly, let's give some credit to opposition. I remember after we beat Hull in the cup several of their fans came on here and were very gracious in defeat. Hull have had tough time themselves over the last few weeks and they ground out a win that they just about deserved.

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All in all I enjoyed the game - disappointed that we threw it away with some silly mistakes and though the ref seemed to give puzzling decisions at times (Rob Parker being penalised for offside after the ball had played the man which led to a Hull try for instance) I don't think he was the reason we lost.

On other points raised - the ref & touch judges being in Hull colours for the first half just beggars belief - here is what the laws of the game say:

"Colours 4. (e) Referees should inspect the colours to be worn by the teams before the players enter the field of play so that, if a change is necessary, the start of the game is not delayed.

Clubs not wearing their registered colours should be reported to the appropriate authority by the Referee unless the reason for not so doing is self-evident or known beforehand."

Now if they have to inspect both teams shouldn't it have been pretty obvious that there was great scope for confusion? The fact that they changed at half-time rather proves the point!!

On the disagreements over the goal kicks - again the rules say this:

"Judging kicks 11. If a Touch Judge is of the opinion that a goal has been scored he shall raise his flag above his head. If the kick is unsuccessful he shall wave his flag in front of him and below the waist.
If there is no disagreement between the Touch Judges their decision shall be accepted.
In the event of disagreement, the Referee shall decide.
If the ball passes near to one upright, the Touch Judge assigned to that upright is in the better position of the two to decide whether the ball has passed inside or outside the post and, in the event of disagreement, the Referee should be more inclined to accept this particular Touch Judge’s
decision."

So there you have it - ultimately it's the ref's call!!

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Many thanks to the BBC Super League show for not showing the main talking point concerning last nights game against Hull FC ie: 'The Goal That Never Was'

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The main thing for me over the last 3 weeks is the players have started to play for the shirt. You can Forgive defeats as long as the effort is there and the lads seem to have settled into a decent team that can only get better in the next 3 seasons. Wilshere did not have the best of games but everyone can have an off day but the resurgence of the team seems to of come about since he got moved to fullback. One big plus was Gouldings performance. He showed great character to play so well after his nightmare debut. We can really looking forward to the weekend in Edinburgh and hopefully a good performance and 2 points :D






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