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Paul124897 wrote: if not a little confused with your own feelings at times (ie.. negative one week, positive the next).


Whadya MEAN..."not a little confused?"

Too right I'm confused! I'm a LOT confused! :P Like most of us were! How can the team we saw a week last Friday turn into the one we saw last Friday? Its been like riding a roller-coaster watching this lot, although right now we seem to be spending rather too long in the underground dark bit. That's bound to come across in what people (other than the diehard optimists and the perennial negativites) say on here, especially straight after matches.

I live in hope of being confused again THIS Friday! :PRAY:

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dixie wrote:Pretty sure we don't need to know about when you PM each other. :D


Its OK. We were only talking about you. :P

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Steve McNamara's record.

2006
Win Ratio 52% from 19 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game

2007
Win Ratio 62% from 27 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game

2008
Win Ratio 51% from 27 games
26 points For average per game
23 points Against average per game

2009
Win Ratio 22% from 9 games
18 points For average per game
27 points Against average per game

Since round 12 last year when it appears the wheels fell off.
Win Ratio 37% from 24 games
24 points For average per game
26 points Against average per game






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redeverready wrote:Steve McNamara's record.

2009
Win Ratio 22% from 9 games
18 points For average per game
27 points Against average per game

Since round 12 last year when it appears the wheels fell off.
Win Ratio 37% from 24 games
24 points For average per game
26 points Against average per game


I made this point on aother thread, a win ratio of 22% would have us bottom (Celtic notwithstanding) and would have had us bottom the last two years and relegated instead of Salford.

There are many manifold reasons put forward for this as extensively discussed elsewhere, but this basic fact needs improving ASAP by the current staff or a new one (obvious I know, but Im feeling in a obvious mood)

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Adeybull wrote:Its OK. We were only talking about you. :P


Surely i'm not that important, but thank you!






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redeverready wrote:Steve McNamara's record.

2006
Win Ratio 52% from 19 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game

2007
Win Ratio 62% from 27 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game

2008
Win Ratio 51% from 27 games
26 points For average per game
23 points Against average per game

2009
Win Ratio 22% from 9 games
18 points For average per game
27 points Against average per game

Since round 12 last year when it appears the wheels fell off.
Win Ratio 37% from 24 games
24 points For average per game
26 points Against average per game


Depressing reading. I didn't think we'd fall this badly but personally i never thought McNarama was the right man in 2007 to make this Bulls team contenders. Not that i wanna go into a debate about money being the issue. Just don't think he's done well enough with squad at disposal.






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Paul124897 wrote:My focus of discontent is aimed at threads being derailed due to 3 people taking digs at each other and boosting their own egos (FA, Eddie, Tiger) which just lead to meaningless dialogue for the rest of us.

Your ego seems to be on parade here. If I challenge ME that's it, there's no "ego" agenda, it's what he says. If he didn't say it, I wouldn't challenge it.

Paul124897 wrote:It's not just him.

No? Who else, then? (Occasional easily disposed of trolls and infants excepted?)

Paul124897 wrote:Whoever starts it, shouldn't.

Well, maybe not, but if they do?

Paul124897 wrote:Whoever replies to it, shouldn't.

Ah, well. That depends. Trolls and puerile stuff is one thing, but patently unfair, often malicious, always carefully aimed strategies are another.

Paul124897 wrote:What makes it worse is that you're all above 20 years of age, probably with a wife and/or kids but let's be honest - you're acting like kids.

Your superficial opinion. Personally I think ME is far from acting like a kid.

Paul124897 wrote:Debate is good. Where did I say I wanted to read things unopposed?

Let me think; maybe:
Quote:Whoever starts it, shouldn't.

Quote:Whoever replies to it, shouldn't.


Paul124897 wrote:Get your opinions out on the table, but don't try to change somebodies opinion.

Leaving aside the pretty obvious point that most people having debates would like to "win the debate" - which is pretty much the same thing as changing opinions, either of the opponent/s, or the audience, or both - how does your system work? As I understand you, ME can get his opinion "out on the table" - but nobody should respond?

Paul124897 wrote:If someone is being outrageous, just laughing and move on. He/She is entitled to that opinion.

Piffle. I don't have a problem with anyone on these boards that I think posts their honest and fair opinions, I do have a problem with people whose aims seem to me to be to destabilise the club that I follow. Unlike you, I don't want to censor them, much as they might annoy me, but given that they are not censored, why should replies be restricted?

Paul124897 wrote:Now, to draw this post to a conclusion, I have no spat with either of you. As I've said, debate is good. But debate really loving sucks when wading through pages of nonsense.

Debate? Oh, come off it, the last thing ME wants is a "debate". He can't handle debate. That's as good as any reason for challenging the worst of his efforts, as he then implodes. Well, at least until he re-groups. As for "nonsense", well, who am I to judge my own posts? I'd be surprised if any were, by and large, nonsense but it's your opinion.

What I will say though is the McNamara saga was (or so I understood) eventually confined to one particular barracks (this thread) specifically so anyone who felt the urge, or was willing or able to "wade through" it could do so, and anyone else who wasn't so inclined could avoid it. This to me seems very fair. Guess which poster then tries (with fair success) to funnel numerous other threads down the same avenue? (Clue: it's not me). It would be right if all such efforts were moved here whenever spotted. There was talk of locking this thread (which would actually seem odd, since of all the clubs, coaching at Bradford would seem at least as fair game for a topic as anywhere else). I don't care either way, but it will only lead to another explosion of McNamara threads all over the place IMHO.






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Thought i would come on your forum and see what your chit chatting about,but all you lot do is b*tch at each other.Think i will try another club. :shock: :shock:

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obeone wrote:Thought i would come on your forum and see what your chit chatting about,but all you lot do is b*tch at each other.Think i will try another club. :shock: :shock:


The Dark Side has been strong on here of late...

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