keithcun wrote:If for instance we were on the same points and games, then I would be confident. But, and it's a big but, those possible extra 4 points at this stage of this season is a big buffer. Don't forget we are talking about teams who rarely lose points so for Liverpool to win all their games and Man U drop enough points is a big ask. We've turned the goal difference around which is a plus point as this season that could be very important.
Man U going through to the semis (Champs League) and us going out may help in that, and yes, I'd rather be in the semis as well, but we'll only know if we've benefitted by going out when the season is over.
I'm not saying it's not possible or we can't, but to say I'm confident of winning the League is a misconception, I'm not.
Remember back many months ago at the start of the season, all I wanted out of Liverpool this season was for them to challenge for the title, something we haven't done for a long time. This season we have and no matter what happens now we have done that and become serious challengers and most people recognise that. I'm a realist and to expect Liverpool to win the league this season was not being realistic. To be quietly confident they would do better is not the same.
I think we've bridged the gap this season between us and Man U and Chelsea and now is the time to add one or two top quality players to the squad instead of quantity. But, as we've seen with Keane, and yourselves with Berbatov to an extent, that's still no guarantee that the team will improve.
The goal difference is potentially significant. If that were still in United's favour then feasibly they could afford to draw 2, win the rest, and clinch it. As it is United's margin for error (assuming Liverpool win their remaining games) is only 1 match. United still have to play Arsenal and city at home and travel to Boro and Hull who are absolutely desperate.
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keithcun wrote:If for instance we were on the same points and games, then I would be confident. But, and it's a big but, those possible extra 4 points at this stage of this season is a big buffer. Don't forget we are talking about teams who rarely lose points so for Liverpool to win all their games and Man U drop enough points is a big ask. We've turned the goal difference around which is a plus point as this season that could be very important.
Man U going through to the semis (Champs League) and us going out may help in that, and yes, I'd rather be in the semis as well, but we'll only know if we've benefitted by going out when the season is over.
I'm not saying it's not possible or we can't, but to say I'm confident of winning the League is a misconception, I'm not.
Remember back many months ago at the start of the season, all I wanted out of Liverpool this season was for them to challenge for the title, something we haven't done for a long time. This season we have and no matter what happens now we have done that and become serious challengers and most people recognise that. I'm a realist and to expect Liverpool to win the league this season was not being realistic. To be quietly confident they would do better is not the same.
I think we've bridged the gap this season between us and Man U and Chelsea and now is the time to add one or two top quality players to the squad instead of quantity. But, as we've seen with Keane, and yourselves with Berbatov to an extent, that's still no guarantee that the team will improve.
The only thing I would disagree with is that I actually think Liverpool will win the title. Looking at Utd's games there are a few tricky ones and I think we will drop points, if Liverpool win all their games I fancy them to be champions. Whether or not they will is another matter but they have a great chance of beating Arsenal tonight with them playing at the weekend and having their two main stirkers out.
Utd is all honesty must be wondering how the hell they are top of the PL as we have hardly played well all season. Yeah we had a run of clean sheets but we were still stuttering our way to wins.
Absolutely no ******* way can Liverpool win the title. No ******* way!
If they did, then I'd have to promote Man Utd into a trio of hatred. At the moment it's a duo of Liverpool and Arsenal, but if Man United give the title away to the scousers then those ***** will join them as well.
I'm just thankful that the scousers won't win the title.
There's also no way that Liverpool have truly bridged the gap between them and us and Man U. Man United are a pale shadow of where they were and we've had two new managers this season. Scolari gutlessly gave Liverpool the 6 points which have cost us so much. Add on the fact that Liverpool have benefitted massively from oppo red cards and late winners and the true picture should be them lagging well behind again. Congratulations on them being in the chase for so long this year, but they'll win nowt this year and next season normal service will resume and they'll be well behind again.
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Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:I think with limited resources he's not far off. Anyone can buy success. Very few can do it on a limited budget, Moyes is an exception.
The question that reamins about Moyes is can he manage at a club where he will have money to spend, expectation is much higher and he has big players with big ego's to handle etc. He is being touted around as Fergie's successor but he will be in a new enviroment and only then would we know if he is capable or not.
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:Absolutely no ******* way can Liverpool win the title. No ******* way!
If they did, then I'd have to promote Man Utd into a trio of hatred. At the moment it's a duo of Liverpool and Arsenal, but if Man United give the title away to the scousers then those ***** will join them as well.
I'm just thankful that the scousers won't win the title.
There's also no way that Liverpool have truly bridged the gap between them and us and Man U. Man United are a pale shadow of where they were and we've had two new managers this season. Scolari gutlessly gave Liverpool the 6 points which have cost us so much. Add on the fact that Liverpool have benefitted massively from oppo red cards and late winners and the true picture should be them lagging well behind again. Congratulations on them being in the chase for so long this year, but they'll win nowt this year and next season normal service will resume and they'll be well behind again.
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Ian [77] wrote:Why? They don't exactly play sincilating football but neither do most of the teams in this division. Stoke City have more than earned their place in next season's Premier League. If Newcastle do get relegated, they'll deserve everything they get and more. Just as if they stay up, they will have earned it. It's a hoary old cliche but after 38 games, everyone gets what's coming to them.
love me i agree with everything you say in this post
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I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN..............BILL CLINTON (PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A).
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LFCRhino wrote::SLEEPY: you sound like Alex Ferguson
Nope, he sounds like the clueless, Steven Cohen wannabee he is.
Bob Paisley wrote:A lot of teams beat us, do a lap of honour and don't stop running. They live too long on one good result. I remember Jimmy Adamson crowing after Burnley had beaten us once and that his players were in a different league. At the end of the season they were.
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Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:I think with limited resources he's not far off. Anyone can buy success. Very few can do it on a limited budget, Moyes is an exception.
moyes proved what a good manager he is when he was at preston, and he has built a decent team across the park. manager of the year for me!!!
oh and BTW good luck in the final.....................put the cockneys to bed
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I CAN ASSURE YOU THERE IS NOT A HURRICANE ON IT'S WAY TO BRITAIN............MICHAEL FISH (BBC WEATHERMAN).
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN..............BILL CLINTON (PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A).
OUR STADIUM WILL BE READY FOR THE 2010 SEASON................JOHN WILKINSON (SALFORD CHAIRMAN).
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you sound like Alex Ferguson 
