Joined: Jun 17 2007 Posts: 30 Location: in training
Winger wrote:There is a lot going on at the moment and the 15s have some very good players coming through and i believe a super league club is chasing some of these players. Doncaster dont have the finances to sign players that young as there is no way they are ready to play first or reserve grade yet so they would be signed and unable to play for at least 12 months which is not good for the players. Three myton players have quit the scholarship recently is that the commitment the club needs, maybe the club made a mistake in signing these players
the reason these lads did stop coming down was due to the way the club have handled the situation, to tell the lads no contracts were to be given was bad enough but at 15 parents should have been present,i wasnt.we was told scholarship ended april and things change all the time. we have brought the lads though to training in our cars paid by ourselves,all winter never late, and attended auction night when thick snow and we attended matches to show support ,so you question commitment .the lads felt let down , and my lad one of them from myton and have spoken to pat to have a meeting and he is returning to finish his scholarship.if super league clubs interested in these players they must be good players and then the club should show a bit of faith in them.the idea of a scholarship system is to bring players though,not get to 16 and end other wise the club is only offering training and shouldnt be called a scholarship
Joined: Apr 16 2009 Posts: 35 Location: grafting as usual
Winger wrote:There is a lot going on at the moment and the 15s have some very good players coming through and i believe a super league club is chasing some of these players. Doncaster dont have the finances to sign players that young as there is no way they are ready to play first or reserve grade yet so they would be signed and unable to play for at least 12 months which is not good for the players. Three myton players have quit the scholarship recently is that the commitment the club needs, maybe the club made a mistake in signing these players
Winger wrote:There is a lot going on at the moment and the 15s have some very good players coming through and i believe a super league club is chasing some of these players. Doncaster dont have the finances to sign players that young as there is no way they are ready to play first or reserve grade yet so they would be signed and unable to play for at least 12 months which is not good for the players. Three myton players have quit the scholarship recently is that the commitment the club needs, maybe the club made a mistake in signing these players
the idea of bringing players from other areas is to improve the standard of the scholarship in doncaster, and the players pat has brought in has done that,now that has happened you have to keep your best players or its been a waste of time ,why do all the hard work for other clubs to come along and pick off the better ones so i dont think signing these players was a mistake if it improves standards
[quote="freddykruger"]the idea of bringing players from other areas is to improve the standard of the scholarship in doncaster, and the players pat has brought in has done that,now that has happened you have to keep your best players or its been a waste of time ,why do all the hard work for other clubs to come along and pick off the better ones so i dont think signing these players was a mistake if it improves standards [/quote]
you are right in what you say but if you had all the facts and new the real cost of signing a 16 year old now you would be shocked and these 16 year olds would be on more money than most first team players
Winger wrote:you are right in what you say but if you had all the facts and new the real cost of signing a 16 year old now you would be shocked and these 16 year olds would be on more money than most first team players
you can only offer what you can afford, and i understand the way the club is run on a budget and you cant give what you dont have, and to be honest you dont just play rugby for the money its in your blood, and you want to play at the highest level you can, i think the way forward would be have to be incentive based so you have something to aim for
Joined: Jun 17 2007 Posts: 30 Location: in training
Winger wrote:you are right in what you say but if you had all the facts and new the real cost of signing a 16 year old now you would be shocked and these 16 year olds would be on more money than most first team players
what is the point of running a scholarship if you dont bring players though? the club has never given feedback to how the lads are doing and maybe thats what should happen. as for the cost of signing 16 year olds my lad wanted commitment from the club not money as he sees it as learning and climbing the ladder,he will be strong enough to play reserve rugby next year so leaving him with myton in the winter and keep him playing is not a problem. the club needs to have a rethink on how it handles these things in the future,what are next years lads going to think ?
Joined: Apr 16 2009 Posts: 35 Location: grafting as usual
will brett wrote:the reason these lads did stop coming down was due to the way the club have handled the situation, to tell the lads no contracts were to be given was bad enough but at 15 parents should have been present,i wasnt.we was told scholarship ended april and things change all the time. we have brought the lads though to training in our cars paid by ourselves,all winter never late, and attended auction night when thick snow and we attended matches to show support ,so you question commitment .the lads felt let down , and my lad one of them from myton and have spoken to pat to have a meeting and he is returning to finish his scholarship.if super league clubs interested in these players they must be good players and then the club should show a bit of faith in them.the idea of a scholarship system is to bring players though,not get to 16 and end other wise the club is only offering training and shouldnt be called a scholarship
i thought the idea of pro2012 advisory board was to make a successful super league application in 2012 ? well i am sure your scholarship set up is part of this application and to be successful i would believe you would need to be seen as bringing them though your system ?
Joined: Jun 17 2007 Posts: 30 Location: in training
allworknoplay wrote:i thought the idea of pro2012 advisory board was to make a successful super league application in 2012 ? well i am sure your scholarship set up is part of this application and to be successful i would believe you would need to be seen as bringing them though your system ?
things could be changing as there is a possibility that lads on scholarship are going to train with reserve side for them to see how they develop and take things from there, so at least the club is trying to sort its youth development out and this can only be good for the future , well done
this is quite a late reply to what you are talking about here, but you on about doncaster scholarship here, and all you've talked about is the hull players, there good yes but what about looking to your home grown talent i'm saying home grown what i mean is from round doncaster as it wont be just money we would love to represent our town, it's my last year on scholarship and like everyone else i'd love the opportunity to play pro BUT IS IT REALLY GOING TO COME AT DONCASTER OR DO I HAvE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE?
Joined: Jun 17 2007 Posts: 30 Location: in training
shauny6 wrote:this is quite a late reply to what you are talking about here, but you on about doncaster scholarship here, and all you've talked about is the hull players, there good yes but what about looking to your home grown talent i'm saying home grown what i mean is from round doncaster as it wont be just money we would love to represent our town, it's my last year on scholarship and like everyone else i'd love the opportunity to play pro BUT IS IT REALLY GOING TO COME AT DONCASTER OR DO I HAvE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE?
scholarships should bring local talent to the club, the only problem is south yorkshire isnt as strong as in other areas, thats why hull lads came to doncaster to help raise the standard . we came though to doncaster in our own cars at own expense and as you said its not all about money but to be given a chance in pro game.with the problems at the club it doesnt look good, and you will probably know our problems with scholarship ended in march as there wasnt anything at the end of it for the lads, pat said he would be in touch about scholarship running though to september but not been in touch since then, your luck may change as 2 of our lads have been playing for hull kr foundation academy, so dont give up hope , as you never know who may be watching you ,just enjoy your rugby, good luck
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