I don't think anyone has a God given right to win at all. What I can see is some teams with some brilliant players playing utter dross. I don't have a problem with losing as long as there is a decent game on. Bradford vs Warrington was one of the poorest spectacles I have ever seen. Both teams, with some proven class players, played absolutely shocking standards of rugby.
I don't think it's because the salary cap has evened out where the players go that the lower teams have become more competitive. I think that's insulting to some of the players that have come through the academies over the years. I think our talent pool has increased which is why there is more competition. But I think the standard of rugby has gone down because of a shocking standard of coaching at the moment. Unforced error rates being high and 5-drives and a kick tactics are not good spectacles and not because players are being evened out.


I think Hull have built a decent side to be fair. And Bradford's is definitely not as bad as the table suggests.
And I have recognised many times that teams have built well. Hudds especially. But it's the coaches job to build the team as well, which goes with my point.


Possibly the most stupid reply I have ever seen. How is being a poor team an explanation? The explanation would be WHY we are a poor team. Why do you think Hull's team are poor at the moment? Why do you think Wire are poor? Why are Bulls poor?


That's not what I'm saying at all. You're either being purposely ignorant so you can have a pop, or you just can't understand what I'm saying.

If Hull finish bottom but play with some flair and passion and skill then what more can I ask for? As long as the product on the pitch is entertaining then I have no problem with losing. But we have been poor as a team, like Wire and Bulls and Catalans and Wigan. There are proven players in these teams. Being a good coach means more than recruiting the best players. I don't want to see a close league because the standards level down. I want to see them level up. Only Leeds and Saints seem to be maintaining a decent standard at the moment.

it assessed the management of the org and business cases...

I suppose their are so many factors involved in success. I think team spirit is as important as anything. Bradford have made some truly dreadful signings in the last few seasons (why the obsession with Wakefield Wildcat players?). Add to these very average players a very average coach and it's not a suprise the Bulls are now struggling. The Warriors and Wolves have great squads yet the team spirit has just not been there. You have to admire Wakefield, Hull KR and Cas. On paper not the best, but it shows how good coaching and a cracking team spirit can put your club right up their with th Rhinos and Saints.

I'm reminded of a time say 7 or 8 years ago when Saints or Wigan would come to town. Everytime they touched the ball they looked dangerous, we'd expect to be beaten royally, we'd call 40-18 a good performance and if we beat them it was like winning the lottery.
I miss those days but to say the standard of that competition touched todays is ridiculous.
Our bench a few years ago featured players like Warren Stevens, Kevin Crouthers, nobodies yet as Smokey put it, Warrington were one of the teams that would compete 5 or 6 years ago. Our bench now features players with international honours, a far far stronger squad and the reality is there have always been two teams at the top, there never was consistantly a 'big four' or 4 teams in any given year that looked like challenging. Wigan were thereabouts on name only post 2000 and Leeds have just replaced bradford as the leagues second dominant team.

This is the key point. For years now we haven't given youth a chance, and have lost a lot of talent at the "potential" stage as a result. Only by giving English prospects game time and the benefit of a first team training regime will we ever get the elite national player pool broader, and the national side more competitive - and our sport will always struggle to grow without some international success. Loyal servant though he was, does anyone really think that people like Keith Senior should have had no competition for his England jersey well into his thirties? Roll on the next generation I say - especially the cockney ones