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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:28 am 
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{Hogan} wrote:Winning bonus being brought back in? Could well be.


I think they are unworkable with the salary cap, a major downside of it

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saints35 bulls0 wrote:do they refuse, or let the club register the player then penalise them for it?

or as they only have to do a monthly return, Wigan have until the end of April to get their cap in order before Gleeson starts to count.


I'm sure they refuse. As the cap is 'live' the club should have current figures, and thus the RFL will be able to assess if a signing will take a club over.

I think we would have had the space to bring Gleeson in, with the help of Mathers wage being freed up.

IMO we now have the cap space freed up by Mossop and Goulding which could result in mid-season signing or improved deals/extensions for current players


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{Hogan} wrote:Winning bonus being brought back in? Could well be.


Us at Saints have a strong rumour about Tom Armstrongs contract being "enhanced" once he plays 5 first team games and this is a reason we have not seen him since the 4th game etc.. not many believe it and i myself am sceptical (not even sure if he has made 4 or 5 etc..)

But if something similar was to exist you'd have to think due to Ainscough and Tomkins continued presence in the team might have led to their deals being improved to the point of needing more room.






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Mossop
Goulding
Pryce

and perhaps- Flanny to go out on loan? Would be good business, free up cap for another player and give some players week in week out first team action.

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Last Son of Wigan wrote:Mossop
Goulding
Pryce

and perhaps- Flanny to go out on loan? Would be good business, free up cap for another player and give some players week in week out first team action.


If they are not for gleeson, you can see potentially well over 100k availiable there for a class signing

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Saint Simon wrote:If they are not for gleeson, you can see potentially well over 100k availiable there for a class signing


if Wigan are paying well over £100k for those 3 - they are in bigger strife than I thought.

At most there will be around £40k freed up, bearing in mind that we are 1/3 through the season too.






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saints35 bulls0 wrote:if Wigan are paying well over £100k for those 3 - they are in bigger strife than I thought.

At most there will be around £40k freed up, bearing in mind that we are 1/3 through the season too.

Its all done pro rata so, i would expect a player to be on at least £30 -40k a year in the first team at wigan. Just guessing though. any player coming in would only be on 2/3 of the seasons wage though.

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Saint Simon wrote:Its all done pro rata so, i would expect a player to be on at least £30 -40k a year in the first team at wigan. Just guessing though. any player coming in would only be on 2/3 of the seasons wage though.


If you get 1,500,000 to spend on 25 players in your first team then fringe juniors like Mossop will be lucky to be on £15,000-20,000,

Goulding £20,000-25,000 Pryce maybe £40,000

Take 30% off that you may get £50-55K free any more free'd and Wigan are paying too much






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Now Goulding's gone I don't expect Pryce to go on loan as well.
Pryce can cover wing and centre.
He looked massive on Monday. He was a lot taller than Ryles or Richards and they are both 6'5".
Had to laugh when the Catalan player tried to crash tackle Pryce and a cheer went up from their crowd. When their player bounced off Pryce and landed on his backside the same fans then groaned.
Pryce looked as knackered as the rest of the team but he didn't play Thursday.
Get Pryce fit and he'll take the 4 shirt when Carmont goes end of 2010.

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Father Ted wrote:Now Goulding's gone I don't expect Pryce to go on loan as well.
Pryce can cover wing and centre.
He looked massive on Monday. He was a lot taller than Ryles or Richards and they are both 6'5".
Had to laugh when the Catalan player tried to crash tackle Pryce and a cheer went up from their crowd. When their player bounced off Pryce and landed on his backside the same fans then groaned.
Pryce looked as knackered as the rest of the team but he didn't play Thursday.
Get Pryce fit and he'll take the 4 shirt when Carmont goes end of 2010.


If Pryce goes i am sure we will be making room for another back, if McIllorum goes we could be looking at a half, if one of Prescott or O'Carroll goes we will be looking at a Prop.

Only if and when any of these moves occur which i doubt will I be convinced the current loan moves are anything more than exercises aimed to develop both Mossop and Goulding as future Wigan players.






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