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Durham Giant wrote:Whether the complaints can be statistically evidenced or not there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest they could be doing better.

I am sure i read last year that salendine nook school got to some RL final and there was no significant contact from the club.

Whether that is down to the school or the club i know not, BUT it apeears there are some communication problems that could be improved.


Smashing logic. When fans or even coaches of other clubs criicise the Giants based on their own 'biases and anecdotes' we challenge them. We do so with the facts.

Apparently when a 'Giants fan' challenges the community work of the club based on anecdote or a single event its okay.

Maybe if Justin Morgan or Nobby would say we had forgotten about our community game since getting a licence posters may think it worthy of challenging. :wink:

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Marsdengiant wrote:So far no evidence has been forthcoming :roll:


Then i suggest you re read his points again, seems to me you have selective reading Marsden mate

After the schools (i know he didnt provide numbers), he makes 2 other points, you miss them?

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Marsdengiant wrote:we challenge them. We do so with the facts.




You any facts to dismiss his claims?

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Gahan wrote:Then i suggest you re read his points again, seems to me you have selective reading Marsden mate

After the schools (i know he didnt provide numbers), he makes 2 other points, you miss them?


That's right...no numbers.

Of course I am being selective! I am selecting the point about the Giants forgetting about the community game and saying that the poster provides no evidence! Despite requests no evidence has been forthcoming. The suggestion that everything is done at the zone is untrue.

I await his /her evidence.

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Marsdengiant wrote:That's right...no numbers.

Of course I am being selective! I am selecting the point about the Giants forgetting about the community game and saying that the poster provides no evidence! Despite requests no evidence has been forthcoming.


Maybe they dont come on every day :D


Marsdengiant wrote:The suggestion that everything is done at the zone is untrue.



I cant think of anywhere else they do anything tbh

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Gahan wrote:You any facts to dismiss his claims?


To be clear:

If someone wants to criticise the club with no evidence it is okay.

If you want to ask the person to provide evidence that is not okay.

Infact people can make things up and do nothing, those wanting to challenge it have to do the research.

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Marsdengiant wrote:To be clear:

If someone wants to criticise the club with no evidence it is okay.

If you want to ask the person to provide evidence that is not okay.

Infact people can make things up and do nothing, those wanting to challenge it have to do the research.


Not quite what i said, they obviously dont come on every day to answer your questions, you have asked, we'll just have to wait for an answer

As for the last point, you could have come up with a counter argument while we are waiting :lol:

Carry on being a picky sod :lol:

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Gahan wrote:Maybe they dont come on every day :D





I cant think of anywhere else they do anything tbh


You don't have to think! Or guess. Contact them and find out the schools they are going out to.

And the activity that does go on at the Zone (a facility most SL clubs would kill for) certainly shows that the community has not been forgotten...doesn't it?

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Gahan wrote:Not quite what i said, they obviously dont come on every day to answer your questions, you have asked, we'll just have to wait for an answer

As for the last point, you could have come up with a counter argument while we are waiting :lol:

Carry on being a picky sod :lol:


Twas ever thus :D

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Strikes me as a case of "damned if they do, damned if they dont"

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