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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:57 pm

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Joined: Jul 30 2002
Posts: 2911
Location: Wigan

dont disagree alex

just lets not pretend nobby is the final word at wigan.

I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
Doom and gloom, doom and gloom

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:00 pm

International Chairman

Joined: Mar 17 2002
Posts: 12903

Alex BP' wrote:At the end of the day, Ian Lenegan is supplying the tools but they aren't being used correctly.

And nobody would argue Noble is underachieving, but IL should not be providing the tools, just ensuring they are resonably priced.

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:25 pm

the exile

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Joined: Nov 01 2002
Posts: 1630

Pie Eyed wrote:Again with the "Wiganer" bit.

Which GOOD Wigan-born coaches have we had recently ???

And were the following Wigan-born? :

John Monie
Graeme Lowe
Frank Endacott
Stuart Raper
Admittedly, our best coach (imo) of recent times was born in Wigan, and that was Mike Gregory.

However, having a Wigan-born coach matters not one jot to me, as long as we get in a motivator, who will take no cráp from the players

You missed John Dorahy off that list :wink:

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:55 pm

Boris

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Joined: Apr 12 2003
Posts: 6360
Location: Red Square Moscow

Alex BP' wrote:But the players we have are under achieving.

Our squad, on paper, is a mixture various international players, ex- top NRL stars and some of the countries best young players.

At the end of the day, Ian Lenegan is supplying the tools but they aren't being used correctly.

What 'ex-top NRL stars' are these then?

Richards at a push.

Founder member of the "Bring back Monie" club.

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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:23 am

Player Coach

Joined: Aug 04 2007
Posts: 4235

Amos Roberts - Top try scorer one season. Averaged over 50% try scoring ratio.
Tim Smith - Dally M Rookie, 40 assists in 1 season, touted as the next Johns.
Phil Bailey - Ex-SOO and Australia player.

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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:47 am

ABP'

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Joined: Nov 19 2002
Posts: 17252
Location: Wigan

RB wrote:Amos Roberts - Top try scorer one season. Averaged over 50% try scoring ratio.
Tim Smith - Dally M Rookie, 40 assists in 1 season, touted as the next Johns.
Phil Bailey - Ex-SOO and Australia player.

Mark Riddell was highly rated too.

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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:35 am

moonlight flit

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Joined: Mar 21 2006
Posts: 1695
Location: Rochdale

pk wrote:from the man himself he doesn't have final say in signings at this club and it annoys me when IL comes across all egalitarian at the fans forums. as far as transfer goes i dont think its changed since Mo.

Ah yes but with Mo we got the best !

Martin Offiah, Gene Miles, Brett Kenny, John Ferguson,Hanley and he wanted to sign Wally Lewis.The list was endless of great players.

Look at this sorry lot we have signed now.

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:58 am

Boris

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Smith and Roberts never played Rep football. That says a lot. Secondly, Smith's well reported mental issues are clearly still troubling him which are outside the control of Brian NOble.

Bailey only played SOO because of the woeful injuries suffered in that season. He is a very good player but far from a 'top NRL player'.

Founder member of the "Bring back Monie" club.

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:32 am

ABP'

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Location: Wigan

Boris wrote:Bailey only played SOO because of the woeful injuries suffered in that season. He is a very good player but far from a 'top NRL player'.

He got selected for Australia after that series too.

Injuries or not, he must have been one of the NRL's top players to gain selection.

It's obvious. :roll: