looked bigger cuz the ground was more compact.

I'm not talking about looks. Iirc, crowds were around 4-5k at Griffen Park when we played down there. Since the move they have been 3k+. Not checked my facts yet though so may go have a look now in case I'm wrong

Edit: Just checked, and from 2003 every crowd at Griffan Park was bigger than the crowds at Harlquins when we played there. In 2002, one crowd was the lowest out the lot, the second was only beaten by one crowd from the Stoop.

(it was a bit tricky, I had to try and remember which of the games were played in Bridgend and Leicester (

pretty static crowd wide, although we are a bit down a minimal amount (150) on those figures from GP.
Harlequins RL is just the same as any other brand. I can understand some people bitchin' about the Union tie in, but that's not the problem. The problem is.....nobody knows we exist.

I personally don't care about the fact you are tied in with a Union club. And I'm only commenting on attendances as its the only thing that Quins RL have a big problem with at the moment. I know some Quins fans talking about % increases etc but I think that is a silly estimation to use at that level of attendance. I feel that they are getting left behind by most other teams. Wakey don't seem to get crowds that low any more, neither do Huddersfield. The promotion of Hull KR and inclusion of the Catalans has also meant that Quins are further getting left behind. The inclusion of Salford takes the edge off things although I have never been a fan of Salford been given a franchise anyway tbh. Celtic seem to be getting some O.K crowds but they are a new club. What they have going for them is the fact they have their own identity and a ground that is seen as their home and I think over the next 5-10 years they have the ability to really grow.
Personally, I think its a shame that the London based club didnt get their own ground in the early days as I think this has effected them now. Either that or managed to get a really long lease on a ground

I think the slight fall has been down to reduced away followings since Les Catalans joined SL. Otherwise fairly stable crowd wise and something to build on now we've got some seriously good local boys in the first 17 every week.

And then you bring your points down by doing the opposite of what the last poster did.

Why just West London? Surely it should be the whole of London. The facts remain the crowd was better than that at Quins-Hudds with less away support and at a club that is a lot younger than quins. I think given the right marketing we can bypass quins.

I am very happy that the Wales-England game looks to be getting staged at Newport. With what should be a team of mostly Crusaders it will open the eyes of the South Wales public to the East of Bridgend.

Oh, right. So this isn't the case, then?

Do tell because to the unblinkered masses, it certainly looks to be the case.

I don't know what's funnier, the fact you're so wrong or you referring to yourself as unblinkered!

you show me where Huddersfield still have had to rely on away fans to make up a decent crowds and i will apologise and call myself a fat yorkshire fool - it wont happen cos you are talking absolute rubbish !

Instead of dancing round the issue and coming up with a range of well worn excuses for 8 pages, why dont we just be honest with ourselves and admit that there are not many people in London who would pay regularly to watch RL.

It's nothing to be ashamed of.