They have looked poor the little I've seen, and despite constant patronising talk of effort and progress, they have today been battered at home by Quins.

They've already lost once to Salford and even Warrington, so their games down there will be massive.

It will make a mockery of licensing to have a team lose every game in a season. It's alright to say they are building for the future, but they could have done that in NL1, couldn't they.

I think the RFL have done this too early and risk alienating the Welsh public with a team of losing Aussies.

Look where Salford were two week ago.

I don't think Celtic will do a "Halifax". They'll finish bottom but with two or three victories under their belt.

No, once they get up to speed they will start winning

when do they play wigan ?

Why will it?

Leeds at home could interesting

Don't forget that Celtic Crusaders are playing without ace full back Tony Duggan. He is worth 1-2 tries a game and a lot of inspiration to the rest of the team.

Agreed, it just makes a mockery of the timing of franchising meaning that its very difficult for the two new clubs to compete.

It is a worry for CC if they don't get some wins soon.

Because licensed clubs should at least be at a stage to compete in Super League. Not necessarily win the thing, but 8 defeats, and no sign of getting closer is worrying for sure.

Warrington havent looked like winning or playing competative rugby for a while, should they have their liscence taken from them too? How about wigan?