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CHANNEL22 wrote:What your saying is that anyone found/pleading guilty of a criminal act should be sacked from their job.
That is two punishments for one crime.
maybe, but these players are in the lime light and role models for thousands of kids. it isn't an everyday job, they are in a very privileged position and should behave as such. what sort of message does it send if a club does not take positive action. and before anything is said about feka, i would not have argued if he had been sacked despite drastically different situations
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Deano G wrote:Maybe I've missed it, but I've still not seen a single Saints post on this thread address the domestic violence aspect of the offence.
Whether or not Pryce should or should not continue to be a Saints player it would be right for the Saints club (and its fans) to publicly acknowledge the total unacceptability of domestic violence.
At the moment both Saints as a club and the posters on this thread are strangely silent on this issue.
It doesn't reflect well on any of you, to be honest.
a good post, well said, and something that cannot be disagreed with by anyone with an ounce of moral fibre in their bodies
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Deano G wrote:Maybe I've missed it, but I've still not seen a single Saints post on this thread address the domestic violence aspect of the offence.
Whether or not Pryce should or should not continue to be a Saints player it would be right for the Saints club (and its fans) to publicly acknowledge the total unacceptability of domestic violence.
At the moment both Saints as a club and the posters on this thread are strangely silent on this issue.
It doesn't reflect well on any of you, to be honest.
It goes for granted that domestic violence is unacceptable.
However from what i understand leon pryce was never accused of this, he was charged and pleaded guilty to assault on a man with the mitigation, that has not been denied, that the victim was brandishing a weapon.
Saints club and player have not been accused of this so why issue a statement? Its like saying Wigan should issue a statement condeming the war in Darfur.
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Saint Simon wrote:It goes for granted that domestic violence is unacceptable. However from what i understand leon pryce was never accused of this, he was charged and pleaded guilty to assault on a man with the mitigation, that has not been denied, that the victim was brandishing a weapon. Saints club and player have not been accused of this so why issue a statement? Its like saying Wigan should issue a statement condeming the war in Darfur.
Disgraceful.
Don't try and split hairs on something like this. Why was Pryce there? He had gone to the home of his co-defendant's ex-wife. Read the report again.
"Mr Pryce and Mr Reardon, I do take a very serious view of this offence. I've heard that Mr Reardon only wanted to go round to know the truth about the relationship of Mrs Reardon and Mr O'Brien and that Mr Pryce went there as a peacemaker. I'm afraid I don't accept that. It is clear Mrs Reardon and Mr O'Brien were terrified."
Your reference to the Darfur situation is irrelevant and offensive, as is your reference to Mr O'Brien defending himself. He isn't, as far as I am aware, facing any charges for "brandishing a weapon". The police obviously took the view that he shouldn't be charged.
If I were you I would delete your post.
Saint Simon wrote:It goes for granted that domestic violence is unacceptable. However from what i understand leon pryce was never accused of this, he was charged and pleaded guilty to assault on a man with the mitigation, that has not been denied, that the victim was brandishing a weapon. Saints club and player have not been accused of this so why issue a statement? Its like saying Wigan should issue a statement condeming the war in Darfur.
Disgraceful.
Don't try and split hairs on something like this. Why was Pryce there? He had gone to the home of his co-defendant's ex-wife. Read the report again.
"Mr Pryce and Mr Reardon, I do take a very serious view of this offence. I've heard that Mr Reardon only wanted to go round to know the truth about the relationship of Mrs Reardon and Mr O'Brien and that Mr Pryce went there as a peacemaker. I'm afraid I don't accept that. It is clear Mrs Reardon and Mr O'Brien were terrified."
Your reference to the Darfur situation is irrelevant and offensive, as is your reference to Mr O'Brien defending himself. He isn't, as far as I am aware, facing any charges for "brandishing a weapon". The police obviously took the view that he shouldn't be charged.
If I were you I would delete your post.
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Deano G wrote:Disgraceful.
Don't try and split hairs on something like this. Why was Pryce there? He had gone to the home of his co-defendant's ex-wife. Read the report again.
But the law DOES split hairs you see. That's the nature of the law. That's why this is a common assault charge (to which both have pleaded guilty) and not any other charge at all. They didn't break in the house. Reardon pled guilty to grabbing the arm of his (now) ex-wife, causing her to have three bruises (I presume finger marks) and Pryce pled guilty to pushing O'Brien so he fell and hit his head on the peddle bin (though we don't know how hard). I don't think either offence warrants a jail sentence or indeed the hysterical reactions of so many people on these boards.
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Wire_Yed_79 wrote:Deano G
you seem to have an agenda here or should i say Witch-hunt on the Stains fans
What I would have expected is a Saints fan to have the honesty to say yes this is really serious and the domestic violence implications are particularly bad but that they think he should still play for us because.... and then attempt to justify it.
I still haven't seen this.
On the Hull board many of their fans are reacting very differently. Even the ones that aren't against signing him tend to acknowledge there is a really serious issue. I haven't seen this from the Saints fans on this board.
Badwanger wrote:IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.
nickmanator wrote:billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind
robbierotten wrote:Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.
Deano G wrote:Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?
Joined: Sep 19 2003 Posts: 3525 Location: Manchester
SaintsFan wrote:But the law DOES split hairs you see. That's the nature of the law. That's why this is a common assault charge (to which both have pleaded guilty) and not any other charge at all. They didn't break in the house. Reardon pled guilty to grabbing the arm of his (now) ex-wife, causing her to have three bruises (I presume finger marks) and Pryce pled guilty to pushing O'Brien so he fell and hit his head on the peddle bin (though we don't know how hard). I don't think either offence warrants a jail sentence or indeed the hysterical reactions of so many people on these boards.
More hair splitting. There is no offence of "domestic violence", so I'm not sure what charge you would expect to see.
You appear to think that assault on a woman and her partner by her ex-husband and a friend of her ex husband does not constitute domestic violence. I don't think there will be many people that would share that view.
Thankfully the judge doesn't appear to share your view of the seriousness of the offence either.
Badwanger wrote:IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.
nickmanator wrote:billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind
robbierotten wrote:Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.
Deano G wrote:Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?
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