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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:20 pm

nick hkr

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EL CAMO wrote:Seriously?
:lol:

I rest my case.

When you believe and love something strongly enough you will die for the cause, they have their reasons for what they do and as brutal and immoral as it may be their inner strength is not to be questioned.

How many would die for their kids? I dont think there are too many parents that wouldnt because you love them and want to protect them.

Back to the Ben case, he wanted to protect a friend whom he obviously cares about and was willing to take the consequences.

All of this doesnt mean I defend Bens actual actions or support him or any other convicts I just have an understanding something I feel there is little of from certain posters on these forums.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:22 pm

EL CAMO

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nick hkr wrote:I rest my case.

When you believe and love something strongly enough you will die for the cause, they have their reasons for what they do and as brutal and immoral as it may be their inner strength is not to be questioned.

How many would die for their kids? I dont think there are too many parents that wouldnt because you love them and want to protect them.

Back to the Ben case, he wanted to protect a friend whom he obviously cares about and was willing to take the consequences.

All of this doesnt mean I defend Bens actual actions or support him or any other convicts I just have an understanding something I feel there is little of from certain posters on these forums.

Don't get me wrong I agree with you I just find it hard to understand the workings of a phsychopaths mind. (suicide bombers not BC :lol:

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:33 pm

nick hkr

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Psychopaths are mentally ill people, suicide bombers are completely healthy religeous believers.

My point is that the British public find it difficult to comprehend that someone could die for something they believe in, we live in a world where material things far outweigh beliefs where as these "psychopaths" do not want or need a 50" Plasma or a PS3 they are quite happy to sit with their holy book and pray to who/what they believe in.

However, this "belief" or "religion" does not excuse their actions just like Bens previous and current jobs do not excuse his actions and is why he and they deserve to be punished.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:35 pm

nick hkr

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Must point out that a suicide bomber can only be punished if caught before they've blown him/herself up!!! :oops:

Just before someone picks up on that one!

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:37 pm

EL CAMO

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nick hkr wrote:Psychopaths are mentally ill people, suicide bombers are completely healthy religeous believers.

My point is that the British public find it difficult to comprehend that someone could die for something they believe in, we live in a world where material things far outweigh beliefs where as these "psychopaths" do not want or need a 50" Plasma or a PS3 they are quite happy to sit with their holy book and pray to who/what they believe in.

However, this "belief" or "religion" does not excuse their actions just like Bens previous and current jobs do not excuse his actions and is why he and they deserve to be punished.

Sorry for the thread drift but in my book anybody willing to kill themselves in order to also kill innocent people is mentally ill.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:49 pm

nick hkr

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Your opinion is shared by many and totally understandable. I would however just ask you to read this research done by Nottingham Uni - http://research.nottingham.ac.uk/newsre ... spx?id=344

It too is just an opinion based on research however there have been instances where terrorist cells have used the mentally ill to carry out attacks.

The main thing from this is that EVERYONE has a different way of thinking whether it be from this extreme right down to should you slap a naughty child. Ben has a different thought pattern to that of say Gordon, Gordon has a different thought pattern to mine...etc we dont have to agree with each other but a healthy understanding of why someone thinks differently sometimes makes all the difference when judging an action.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:50 pm

Gavin Miller - Legend

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nick hkr wrote:I rest my case.

When you believe and love something strongly enough you will die for the cause, they have their reasons for what they do and as brutal and immoral as it may be their inner strength is not to be questioned.

How many would die for their kids? I dont think there are too many parents that wouldnt because you love them and want to protect them.

Back to the Ben case, he wanted to protect a friend whom he obviously cares about and was willing to take the consequences.

All of this doesnt mean I defend Bens actual actions or support him or any other convicts I just have an understanding something I feel there is little of from certain posters on these forums.

That sums up my feeelings for Rovers but i wouldnt die for them Nick.
And im a Longhill Lad too and still wonder where this unwritten rule comes from

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:52 pm

EL CAMO

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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:That sums up my feeelings for Rovers but i wouldnt die for them Nick.
And im a Longhill Lad too and still wonder where this unwritten rule comes from

Surely you have never played rugby then if you have not heard of the law of one in all in?

:lol:

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:55 pm

Gavin Miller - Legend

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EL CAMO wrote:Surely you have never played rugby then if you have not heard of the law of one in all in?

:lol:

Oh i played Schoolboy rugby mate and thats where thats ends.
When you get past 16 you tend to grow up a bit.

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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:57 pm

EL CAMO

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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Oh i played Schoolboy rugby mate and thats where thats ends.
When you get past 16 you tend to grow up a bit.

So you are familiar with the rule then?
:wink:

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